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The Green Thing

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The Green Thing

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?

Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smartass young person.
 
nice. i remember collecting pie tins, they were worth a nickel. why don't all communities recycle ? that drives me nuts. (to not do it) it is no longer a "good idea" it needs to be done !
 
codeworks said:
nice. i remember collecting pie tins, they were worth a nickel.
Marie Callender's charges a 50 cent deposit and I never remember to return them.
 
We also used to patch our jeans (which is silly now, since all the rage is raggedy jeans) - I just donate them raggedy.
 
Back during the "Big One" everything was done for the war effort, nothing was wasted and if possible re-used over and over again. I remember helping my Dad pulling out nails and hammering them straight to use later; guess it was a patriotic thing then; now it seems the environmental extremism taxes our freedom of choice.

Those ol' beer pull tabs really work as bass spinners and used to fold and hook them over one another and make Christmas tree tinsel.

So will it still be okay to use real worms for fishing and grossing girls out if they ban the plastic ones?

Francis
 
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Well this really is something common nowadays with the more senior people not submitting to the green movement the current generation is going for.

And we could just put much blame toward them for "causing" this phenomenon that requires people to start living green.

It would not hurt to bring your own bag if you know that you are doing a conscious effort to better things.
 
lpoplar said:
Well this really is something common nowadays with the more senior people not submitting to the green movement the current generation is going for.And we could just put much blame toward them for "causing" this phenomenon that requires people to start living green.

It would not hurt to bring your own bag if you know that you are doing a conscious effort to better things.
The story starts off by having someone suggest a better, more sustainable, method of grocery transport, and instead of saying "That's a good point, thanks" she throws it back in the clerk's face. They then go on to justify resistance to doing something better by saying that they used to do things better so they don't need to anymore. Chances are they aren't still doing most of those things, so any credit they had while doing them no longer applies.

Many of the items in this list aren't targeted to the right age group. Most of these items were in their peak at least 50 years ago, or were well on their way out by 40 years ago now. Beyond that, though, someone who is 35 now is on the tail end of the target generation that made the switch by their purchasing power from these 'sustainable' methods to the ones being lamented. The young clerk probably wasn't born, or even old enough to make a difference, by the time people stopped doing all these pre-'green' items.

But people didn't do any of that because they had a choice; they did it because it was the most convenient method available. The point of the green movement is to make people aware of their impact on more than just themselves and their immediate surroundings.

This story also dismisses many things that were done that most definitely weren't green. Using carcinogenic pesticides that wrecked havoc with wildlife (DDT), putting poisonous Mercury in everything with little caution for safety, polluting rivers and lakes with garbage (Lake Eerie, Cuyahoga River), gas and paint had poisonous lead in it, and so on. Most humans had a very poor grasp of their impact on anything outside of their own bubble and were exploiting wildlife to extinction.
 
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