Truncated domes where there is no cross walk

[Mr. Inspector]

They put truncated domes at a accessible parking access aisle where there is no accessible crosswalk. Is this allowed? ICC A117.1 does not say you cannot put the Truncated domes where there is no accessible crosswalk.

 

[steveray]

And you don't need them at a crosswalk...So sure....

 

[arwat23]

As far as I know, nothing says you can't put detectable warnings in other locations.

Edit: correction: there are very specific places you can't put detectable warnings. Depending on the exact location, it may or may not be allowed. Unless explicitly called out, you can place them anywhere you want.

 

[Joe.B]

11B-404.2.4.4 Floor or ground surface. Floor or
ground surface within required maneuvering clearances
shall comply with Section 11B-302. Changes in level,
slopes exceeding 1:48, and detectable warnings shall
not be permitted.

11B-502.4 Floor or ground surfaces. Parking spaces and
access aisles serving them shall comply with Section 11B-
302. Access aisles shall be at the same level as the parking
spaces they serve. Changes in level, slopes exceeding 1:48,
and detectable warnings shall not be permitted.

11B-503.4 Floor and ground surfaces. Vehicle pull-up
spaces and access aisles serving them shall comply with Section
11B-302. Access aisles shall be at the same level as the
vehicle pull-up space they serve. Changes in level, slopes
exceeding 1:48, and detectable warnings shall not be permitted.

It's my understanding that CA requires them in a bunch of locations that other places do not. See 11B-247.

 

[Joe.B]

As far as I know, nothing says you can't put detectable warnings in other locations.

Edit: correction: there are very specific places you can't put detectable warnings. Depending on the exact location, it may or may not be allowed. Unless explicitly called out, you can place them anywhere you want.

Should I remove my post

I've been studying for the CASp, so I'm in 11-B neck deep... Passed the closed book on the first go (which is supposed to be harder) but going for the third try on the open book.

 

[arwat23]

Should I remove my post

I've been studying for the CASp, so I'm in 11-B neck deep... Passed the closed book on the first go (which is supposed to be harder) but going for the third try on the open book.

Nah lol. I'm a CASp and I completely forgot about the few places you can't put detectable warnings and "had" to correct myself. My brain is fried and I think I'm ready for the weekend...

Best of luck on the CASp exam! Those tests are difficult, and the open book text can be extra hard if you get a project type you don't have much experience in.

 

[Mr. Inspector]

11B-404.2.4.4 Floor or ground surface. Floor or
ground surface within required maneuvering clearances
shall comply with Section 11B-302. Changes in level,
slopes exceeding 1:48, and detectable warnings shall
not be permitted.

11B-502.4 Floor or ground surfaces. Parking spaces and
access aisles serving them shall comply with Section 11B-
302. Access aisles shall be at the same level as the parking
spaces they serve. Changes in level, slopes exceeding 1:48,
and detectable warnings shall not be permitted.

11B-503.4 Floor and ground surfaces. Vehicle pull-up
spaces and access aisles serving them shall comply with Section
11B-302. Access aisles shall be at the same level as the
vehicle pull-up space they serve. Changes in level, slopes
exceeding 1:48, and detectable warnings shall not be permitted.

It's my understanding that CA requires them in a bunch of locations that other places do not. See 11B-247.

I don't know where these sections come from but it's not the ICC A117.1-2006 that we use here.

 

[Mr. Inspector]

I don't know where these sections come from but it's not the ICC A117.1-2006 that we use here. Which does not say the truncated domes cannot be in these spaces

 

[Joe.B]

I don't know where these sections come from but it's not the ICC A117.1-2006 that we use here.

Sorry, I wasn't replying to you, I was replying @arwat23 who is also from California. 11-B is California accessibility to public buildings, public accommodations, commercial buildings, and public housing.

Yes, I added the oxford comma on purpose.