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U.S. history, old blue prints.

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I found these in a vault in the basement of a state hospital. We searched for two days for plans that no one knew existed, then I found a really old guy that led us right to them. Finding the key was yet another adventure.

This room was packed floor to ceiling with old prints. I'm posting this in the supporters area as it deals with our segregated past. Hope no one finds this offensive, I found it quite interesting.

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Certainly no offense here. I've seen it on hospital plans before. When I worked as a planner, what I found interesting was the way in which the defacto segregation of neighborhoods shifted over time during Jim Crow. I always had thought of it as static, but the lines on the map actually would shift as real-estate development occurred and property values changed in southern towns.
 
What prints? Did the link get taken down - I see no attachement...

(((never mind - my system won't allow photobucket to get through...)))
 
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I don't post a lot on this forum but I certainly benefit from all I read. I am not offended by the images. It is the history of the US albeit a very sad chapter. We can't deny it or cover it up. If we don't learn from our past mistakes we are doomed to repeat them. Thanks for posting. I like old plans like these but I guess I am an architect geek.

What is really interesting is looking at a set of plans for a building back even 30 years ago and it had maybe 45 sheets and today that same type and size of building would have 150 to 200 sheets.
 
Eeiicchhh.

But it really does show our history.

How about the plans. Anything on them? Maybe a drinking fountain note or bathroom?
 
wasn't all in the South.. I worked in Michigan for several years and one of the subdivisions (still) had in their subdivision covenents that "Negros" couldn't own those properties.. unenforced of course. Kid you not. Sad but true.. segregation wasn't just a Southern thing.. sort of a NIMBY thing.. thankfully, we've moved past that!
 
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wasn't all in the South.. I worked in Michigan for several years and one of the subdivisions (still) had in their subdivision covenents that "Negros" couldn't own those properties.. unenforced of course. Kid you not. Sad but true.. segregation wasn't just a Southern thing.. sort of a NIMBY thing.. thankfully, we've moved past that!
Exactly, in 1947 there wasn't a single major league team in the former Confederate states.
 
Thanks for the post. Not offended on bit. I love history. The good, bad & ugly. And they are right. It's not just a southern thing. Was up in Alberta in the 70's at Cold Lake doing live wepons training at Primrose air wepons range. Went to a bar in "town". Two entrances. One was for whites only and the other was for indians. Mostly Blackfoot up there I think?
 
Don't know that we've totally moved past it.. I guess it's a personal rather than policy thing.. I love where I work and live (more where I work.. where I am actually in the minority), but I am learning to understand the issues.. I have an open mind and don't judge others ... for any reason..
 
Reminds me of our modern-day construction site access / staging plans: one entry gate for union employees, another for non-union employees.
 
have yet to see that, Yikes.. some jobs here are union only... whole nother story for a whole nother day..
 
You're right Peach, I'm not trying to stir up a union discussion here , just saying that in my generation it's only thing I can compare it to. I am a child of the first wave of intergrated schools via cross-town busing. I have never known a "separate facilities" scenario other than the situation described above.
 
Thank God those days are legally gone.. may not be gone in practice..

It's not really gone..

I don't see anything in any color .. I enforce the code...period.
 
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