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Would you pass this?
- Thread starter mtlogcabin
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fatboy
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It looks like the grade stamp is over the "rot".
I don't think it should be an issue either......JMHO
I don't think it should be an issue either......JMHO
Ya!
It just a little decay (fungus) from when the tree was growing, it stops, does not expand and will not continue to decay. It's ok, if it's stamped. Check the WWPA wood guides for more info. The picture you have posted would not alarm me but I can see why someone would question the material being it's a cripple, could have been used somewhere else in the building.
pc1
It just a little decay (fungus) from when the tree was growing, it stops, does not expand and will not continue to decay. It's ok, if it's stamped. Check the WWPA wood guides for more info. The picture you have posted would not alarm me but I can see why someone would question the material being it's a cripple, could have been used somewhere else in the building.
pc1
pwood
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it is white speck fungus found on doug fir out here. i wouldn't use it for firewood even. i definitely would not accept it in a structural application.
What grading rule or code provisions would you reference were you to reject the wood because of the fungus. Wood subject to moisture in use will have fungus. Wood not exposed to moisture would not allow the fungus to grow so what is the problem.
pwood
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mark,Mark K said:
white speck occurs in the tree while it is growing , not after milling. this board is structurally deficient no matter what grade stamp the bozo put on it. i have had dry rotted lumber with a proper stamp replaced and would have no problem telling them to replace this one stud if i felt it was an issue. the rule i would cite is "because" and cite 2303.1.1 ibc.
I agree that lumber that does not comply with the grading rules can be rejected even if it is stamped.
I refered to my 1998 edition of the WWPA Grading Rules which I understand to be compliant with DOC PS 20. It states that for STUD grade lumber white spec is allowed if it is firm. Thus as long as it readily crumbles under thumb pressure or can be easily picked out the lumber is out of grade. Otherwise it is acceptable.
Since the grading rules state that a certain number of out of grade pieces of lumber are acceptable in any order of lumber some one could argue that the lumber is still acceptable. I can see both sides but recognize that this is not easily resolved. My project specifications make it clear that if any piece is not in grade it is to be rejected thus sidestepping the problem.
I refered to my 1998 edition of the WWPA Grading Rules which I understand to be compliant with DOC PS 20. It states that for STUD grade lumber white spec is allowed if it is firm. Thus as long as it readily crumbles under thumb pressure or can be easily picked out the lumber is out of grade. Otherwise it is acceptable.
Since the grading rules state that a certain number of out of grade pieces of lumber are acceptable in any order of lumber some one could argue that the lumber is still acceptable. I can see both sides but recognize that this is not easily resolved. My project specifications make it clear that if any piece is not in grade it is to be rejected thus sidestepping the problem.
D a v e W
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Send the picture to the EOR for his approval, takes 2 minutes to send by email.
mtlogcabin
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This is a self help project and it was brought to our attention by a certified grader with over 30 years experience (it is his daughters house) no ERO. I sent the pictures to the mill but no response yet. The 4 studs have been changed out.