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WTF Missouri

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Just had a preliminary meeting for a $4.5M renovation project on a commercial structure which will be a multi-use facility. Major renovations, adding stairwells, B, R1 & more.

The company is from Missouri and was expecting the permit fee which includes all plan review and all inspections for all disciplines to be under $2,000 because that is what they would have paid back home.

WTF!!
 
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I just had the plumber for Walmart question his $2100 permit fee for $500,000 worth of work. He stated that they never paid more than $200 to $300 for a permit before.
 
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We don't do fixture count for commercial jobs. It's based on cost of contruction. We decided we spend a lot more time on commercial jobs doing partial inspections, meeting with contractors blah blah blah.
 
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Ok, I'll take some heat on this one. 180,000 sq ft recreation center. Total permit fees: $5399.00. We are cheap!!!
 
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We have two different fee schedules. One based on square footage for new construction. One based on construction cost for remodels. Plus we charge a whopping $5 per required inspection. We are cheap.
 
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jpranch said:
Ok, I'll take some heat on this one. 180,000 sq ft recreation center. Total permit fees: $5399.00. We are cheap!!!
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Just the building permit would run you around $8,025...........
 
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Our building permit base fee would be $33,750.00, no MEP or plan review included...
 
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TJacobs said:
Our building permit base fee would be $33,750.00, no MEP or plan review included...
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What is the valuation for the building??????????? WOW $33,750 :shock: How can you justify that type of fee???

I bet you guys don't get very many recreation center applications do you! :?
 
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It would be very interesting if there is a ranking list of permit fees and then evaluate how well the area is doing economically :?:
 
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4.5 million

Building permit fee $23,677.35 Building only

Plan review fee $ 15,390.28 includes mech, plumbing, fire sprinkler and alarms.

About 1% of the project valve
 
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JAR,

What part of MO? In my AHJ 2,000 wouldn't even cover permit fees and a water tap for a single family dwelling. State law here prohibits most counties (3rd and 4th class) from enforcing building codes, so where the codes are enforced permit fees need to cover a good portion of department costs.

Conclusion...I think they are pulling your leg.
 
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knockadse said:
JAR, What part of MO? In my AHJ 2,000 wouldn't even cover permit fees and a water tap for a single family dwelling. State law here prohibits most counties (3rd and 4th class) from enforcing building codes, so where the codes are enforced permit fees need to cover a good portion of department costs.

Conclusion...I think they are pulling your leg.
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Springfield area so they say
 
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The AHJ i used to work for would of been about $35000 plus MEP and LV fees.

They have since gone up on fees.
 
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$4.5M = $20,472 permit (all trades included) $7,165 plan review, $25,637 total.

Jeff get that all the time, had a basement permit a couple weeks ago, that a contractor swore the neighboring jurisdiction was so much cheaper. I walk over to the computer and pulled their fees up, and they also were still using the 97 UBC table. Kinda shut them up......... :lol:
 
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Mule said:
TJacobs said:
Our building permit base fee would be $33,750.00, no MEP or plan review included...
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What is the valuation for the building??????????? WOW $33,750 :shock: How can you justify that type of fee???

I bet you guys don't get very many recreation center applications do you! :?

For alterations and remodeling the building permit fee is (0.0075 x project cost) as stated on the permit application by the applicant.

For a new building it is (0.0075 x building valuation) as determined using the BVD chart from ICC as amended by us.

http://www.algonquin.org/egov/docs/1228849277_350830.pdf
 
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Do you folks not use the building valuation table provided by ICC as a basis for your fee schedule. You do know they publish a suggested valuation table based on "type of construction and occupancy" twice a year right?
 
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