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Minimum step height

e hilton said:
You missed several important details. I posted that very schematic diagram as a visual aid to give a better explanation of the situation. A picture is worth a thousand words. There are a huge number of details missing in that illustration, and if we end up moving forward with a submittal to the city, a duly licensed architect will prepare a proper drawing. I did state that there would be a raised curb on the side of the ramp, but no handrails. And the whole purpose of this thread is to discuss the 2” rise, and any possible solutions. If we are forced to install the landing as shown, we would probably have to install another handrail parallel with the face of the building.

Now … do you have any suggestions?
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Which came first, the building or the sidewalk?
 
ADAguy said:
has to do with who is responsible, as in owns the sidewalk for permission to alter it.
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Ok, fair question. The lease clearly states we are only responsible for the space inside the leased area, except maintenanve of the doors and glass is on us. And the LL is responsible for all governmental compliance. It’s a multistory building in Philly, retail on the ground floor, condos above.
 
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e hilton, ...if this is an Accessibility issue whom do
you wish to file a variance with, the DOJ ?

O.K., time for a stupid question..........Can you remove
the existing storefront door and side panels and lower
a little bit of the interior floor by creating a ramp
with a slight rise, then re-install the storefront
assembly at a slightly lowered elevation at a lowered
sidewalk ?

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north star said:
O.K., time for a stupid question..........Can you remove
the existing storefront door
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Ok … thinking about that. Might not need to modify the storefront. Remove the threshold. Install a door with a slightly lower bottom rail, or maybe scab on an extension. I need to run the numbers, 1” might be enough, maybe 2”. Flare the sidewalk and the inside floor to get the slope.
 
north star said:
Can you remove
the existing storefront door and side panels and lower
a little bit of the interior floor by creating a ramp
with a slight rise, then re-install the storefront
assembly at a slightly lowered elevation at a lowered
sidewalk ?
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That is one solution that I have seen done before and another decision not to do it.

We have a store front here with one 6-7" high step into a front entrance with a sidewalk/roadway slant to the river and that solution was suggested. The ramp would be longer into the leased space was the reason they chose not to do it. They chose to take their chances with existing non-conforming and cost prohibition clause in the ADA regulations.
 
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