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Fixed as in Architectural element vs use of a moveable table in place of it?

ADAguy

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If I use a table for a reception counter must it comply with ADA as to its height, Regs say they don't apply to moveable furniture.
Is a 42" high table supporting displays compliant?
 
Don't administer the ADA but the IBC would seem to agree. Also, if just for the display of items and not for seating or service I am not sure it would qualify as any type of service counter or seating. If brochures or other customer "consumable" items then if they were within the reach ranges I would think it is fine. JMHO.

1109.11 Seating at tables, counters and work surfaces.
Where seating or standing space at fixed or built-in tables,
counters or work surfaces is provided in accessible spaces, at
least 5 percent of the seating and standing spaces, but not less
than one, shall be accessible.
 
If I use a table for a reception counter must it comply with ADA as to its height,
Is this for a short term event, like a weekend conference? or a permanent function? If it's intended to be a long-term reception counter, I would expect it to be compliant, or have a reasonable accomodation close by.
 
The key here is, if there are other tables of varying heights at 34" ort less
Don't administer the ADA but the IBC would seem to agree. Also, if just for the display of items and not for seating or service I am not sure it would qualify as any type of service counter or seating. If brochures or other customer "consumable" items then if they were within the reach ranges I would think it is fine. JMHO.

1109.11 Seating at tables, counters and work surfaces.
Where seating or standing space at fixed or built-in tables,
counters or work surfaces is provided in accessible spaces, at
least 5 percent of the seating and standing spaces, but not less
than one, shall be accessible.
You mention standing space, if no paper or product is transferred then how would a WC user be discriminated against if other tables are available?
 
ADA guy, you said it is for displays and you also said it is for "reception".
If either of those tasks involves a physical transaction, then you'll want it to be 34" high.

If it is for display-only, then 42" might be OK. I say might because I recall the accessibility lawsuit against Chipotle in 2010 where a high obstruction limited the customer from being able to experience the show if watching their burrito getting made:

Maurizio Antoninetti, a paraplegic who uses a wheelchair, sued two Chipotle restaurants in the San Diego area for violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). He claimed that the height of the wall separating the food preparation counter from the customer line prevents customers in wheelchairs from seeing the different foods available, choosing their ingredients and watching their orders being assembled, which is part of the “Chipotle experience” that the restaurant advertises. Chipotle had a written policy that required its employees to accommodate disabled customers, by showing or handing them soufflé cups of food samples, for example. The trial court found that Chipotle’s written policy constituted “equivalent facilitation” under the ADA’s guidelines and denied injunctive relief to lower the wall. Further, the trial court denied injunctive relief based on its determination that the plaintiff’s purported desire to return to either of the Chipotle restaurants was “not sincere” because he had previously filed accessibility lawsuits against more than 20 other businesses to which he had never returned.

The Ninth Circuit, however, overturned the trial court’s decision and held that the separation wall “subjects [wheelchair-bound customers] to a disadvantage that non-disabled customers do not suffer” and prevents them from enjoying the “Chipotle experience.” The Ninth Circuit also cautioned against taking a plaintiff’s litigation history into account when determining his or her credibility. The trial court was ordered to reconsider its award of damages and attorney’s fees, signaling that the plaintiff will likely be awarded significantly more.

This decision highlights the legal requirement that businesses, especially restaurants and retailers, ensure that a disabled customer has the ability to enjoy their goods, services and facilities in the same way as a non-disabled customer. This decision also hurts a business’ ability to argue that a “professional plaintiff,” so common in this area of law, is acting in bad faith.
 
The key here is, if there are other tables of varying heights at 34" ort less

You mention standing space, if no paper or product is transferred then how would a WC user be discriminated against if other tables are available?
I don't think they would be, but that doesn't mean they can't claim they are, or that a court wouldn't agree. It is hard to determine the exact nature of the table, but "fixed or built in" seems to be the determinate language where no dining or service transactions occur. If there is a question or concern that you may be at risk then it may be prudent to go the extra mile, even if you aren't sure you need to.
 
I appreciate your comments/observations. Serial litigants will claim discrimination even if they can't prove injury , but then what is an injury?
This is often stated in small busines cases as their atty's know that most don't have deep enough pockets to raise a viable defense; do I hear Ponzi scheme?

If the table is empty what then is its use, "it depends" and may change daily.

If it weighs 5,000 lbs is it fixed/moveable ( a hypothetyical )
 
Is this for a short term event, like a weekend conference? or a permanent function? If it's intended to be a long-term reception counter, I would expect it to be compliant, or have a reasonable accomodation close by.
Hey,
I need a humble suggestion. Next month we are planning to arrange a get-together for my schoolmates at my home. My living area does not have much space, so we planned to conduct in the open area of my house. Then a problem arose: we had to go inside my home to wash after the feast. One of my friends come up with an idea of a movable one. Suppose I purchase one and do not use it anymore. Is a portable washbasin available for rent for two days? Any suggestions are appreciated.
 
You have hit on an open issue, it is the intent/ spirit of the ADA to make such an item accessible as far as height and reach range but the Standards do not address moveable elements, only architectural elements. This may be seen as a discrimination issue by some serial litigants. See/consider Access Board webinar on chapter 9 for recommendations.
 
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