Florida existing building

[Bichobrass]

I know, or at least believe that I read at some point that whenever PEM systems are exposed and require some sort of manipulation, that all system must be brought up to code. Is anyone familiar with this? If this is correct, can anyone point me to where I can find it?

Much appreciated.

 

[Bichobrass]

MEP..... not PEM

 

[e hilton]

Exposed? So if you remove a drop ceiling they would be exposed.

Define the amount of “manipulation”.

 

[Bichobrass]

Exposed? So if you remove a drop ceiling they would be exposed.

Define the amount of “manipulation”.

A property I looked at got stripped down to the studs exposing the existing rough plumbing. We’ll have to address the plumbing stack and waste arms as they’re a hodge-podge of historical repairs over the years. My question is….. once I expose MEP components typically within the wall, and conduct some level of repair to those components, it is my understanding that those components addressed would have to be upgraded to comply with the provisions of the current code.

 

[ICE]

I can't say what Florida requires. California code requires a permit for anything that you do. As an inspector I usually didn't get excited by a few minor repairs or alterations. For example, say it's a bathroom where a trap arm is relocated or some old iron waste pipe is replaced....well then maybe not...but if you move the toilet or toss in a shower pan....ya you need a permit.

Extend an HVAC duct ... no permit. Extend a vent....get a permit.

Add a receptacle to an existing circuit...probably not. Hardwire the smoke and CO alarms...absolutely get a permit.

One rule of thumb is that if the permit cost exceeds the project cost you might get a pass but you need to show me the work. I have encountered missing items on permits quite often. Minor things like a bath fan or a hos bib. Do I ask them to make the trip to get a permit where the issuing fee exceeds the actual item fee? I'm not sure that's fair.

I don't suggest that anyone do what I do...so relax Jeff....and you're 100% correct Mark K, I have stepped out of bounds yet again.

 

[tmurray]

There is some level of discretion on this. Usually it is not just exposing it, but some replacement. Replaced items are a no-brainer and must be brought up to current code with some exceptions where an upgrade may result in an overall decrease in safety. As for the limits of the scope, that is a whole other story. a quick chat with the local official is generally your best bet to makes sure everyone knows what options are on the table and what the implications of the options are.