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Commercial Pavilion 30 x 36

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ajacobson

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Would someone be able to help me classify which type of building a commercial pavilion would be? I am putting together some guidelines for a 30 x 36 ft pavilion for a park but the language in the 2024 codes don't seem to include this type of structure. I am thinking A-2 or A-5 would apply, but the structures given as examples for these classifications are a bit more extreme than what I'm going for. People may eat at these pavilions (pre-prepared meals like sandwiches or snacks) but cooking stations will not be included.
 
A3 is kind of the "junk drawer" of A occupancies.....Glad to see more CT folks here. especially from the design side...Just a wide open pavilion with no rooms in it?
 
ajacobson said:
Would someone be able to help me classify which type of building a commercial pavilion would be? I am putting together some guidelines for a 30 x 36 ft pavilion for a park but the language in the 2024 codes don't seem to include this type of structure. I am thinking A-2 or A-5 would apply, but the structures given as examples for these classifications are a bit more extreme than what I'm going for. People may eat at these pavilions (pre-prepared meals like sandwiches or snacks) but cooking stations will not be included.
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I would have thought A-5 because it is (presumably) open, the examples for A-3 are all indoor spaces.

Here’s a thread with a similar question, steveray posted a quote from the commentary which might be helpful.

Outdoor pavilion occupancy classification

Trying to determine the occupancy classification for an open-air outdoor pavilion. 40' x 60' heavy timber post and beam structure, roof trusses, metal roof. Fairly simple project but it will be located at a local community college that is classified as a Use Group B. It will be used for new...
www.thebuildingcodeforum.com
 
steveray said:
A3 is kind of the "junk drawer" of A occupancies....
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I agree with the "junk drawer" classification approach

302.1 Occupancy classification.
........... Where a structure is proposed for a purpose that is not specifically listed in this section, such structure shall be classified in the occupancy it most nearly resembles based on the fire safety and relative hazard.

303.4 Assembly Group A-3.
Group A-3 occupancy includes assembly uses intended for worship, recreation or amusement and other assembly uses not classified elsewhere in Group A including, but not limited to:
 
walker.t said:
I would have thought A-5 because it is (presumably) open, the examples for A-3 are all indoor spaces.

Here’s a thread with a similar question, steveray posted a quote from the commentary which might be helpful.

Outdoor pavilion occupancy classification

Trying to determine the occupancy classification for an open-air outdoor pavilion. 40' x 60' heavy timber post and beam structure, roof trusses, metal roof. Fairly simple project but it will be located at a local community college that is classified as a Use Group B. It will be used for new...
www.thebuildingcodeforum.com
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But A5 is viewing outdoor activities:


303.6 Assembly Group A-5​

Diagram
Group A-5 occupancy includes assembly uses intended for participation in or viewing outdoor activities including, but not limited to:
 
Sounds like A-3 to me. Remember, it doesn't matter whether or not it has enclosing walls. Usable/occupiable areas beneath a roof are nonetheless counted as building area.
 
I am trying to determine what the occupancy classification is for an 68' x 20' open pavilion, built like a pole building with no walls and a metal roof, used to cover the mailboxes for a housing development. I would hate to require toilet rooms but I think it should be accessible.
 
Mr. Inspector said:
I am trying to determine what the occupancy classification is for an 68' x 20' open pavilion, built like a pole building with no walls and a metal roof, used to cover the mailboxes for a housing development. I would hate to require toilet rooms but I think it should be accessible.
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U....And if I had to I would find a way under "storage" to make it accessible...
 
Mr. Inspector said:
Then it would require toilet rooms, drinking fountains, etc. Trying to avoid this.
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U does not have a fixture count...Or you just call it part of the R and you are all set for fixtures.....Don't get the plumbing "uses" confused with use and occupancy

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2902.1​

Plumbing fixtures shall be provided in the minimum number shown in Table 2902.1 based on the actual use of the building or space.
 
steveray said:
U does not have a fixture count...Or you just call it part of the R and you are all set for fixtures.....Don't get the plumbing "uses" confused with use and occupancy

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2902.1​

Plumbing fixtures shall be provided in the minimum number shown in Table 2902.1 based on the actual use of the building or space.
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Not an apartment house. It is a stand-alone pavilion for and in a housing development. I would not define as residential.
 
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