steveray
SAWHORSE
Thanks FV...Of course we will continue to amend out IRC sprinklers so I will have to read my soon to be adopted 2012 codes and amendments carefully.
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2009 IBC 1104.4 (ADA) Elevator?
- Thread starter Nate P
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"ICC is very good at making bad changes and backpedaling in the next edition (or errata)."
Two completely different Committees having different viewpoints about the type of buildings covered by the scopes of those codes (IBC versus IRC). The Code Officials are making the final vote to be inconsistent. Who really knows that they are thinking? Maybe there are some considerations about the cost/feasibility/loss-of life-potentials "analysis" going in their heads. OR, they might be just following the recommendations of the committee for that code. The voting Code Officials might not be the same people for each code! Large jurisdictions might have separate departments handling Commercial buildings versus IRC buildings. The Code Officials sometimes figure out that what they decided on has "unintended consequences" and approve proposals to fix the problem (or even reverse the original position.) With a consensus process and non-unanimous voting criteria, I guess that happens sometimes.
Errata, as I understand it, is where ICC Staff makes a mistake in publishing the results of the code development process. The approved proposal changes the code in certain ways and the code book shows something technically different (or doesn't reflect the proposal change at all). I wish they could get a better handle on those issues.
Two completely different Committees having different viewpoints about the type of buildings covered by the scopes of those codes (IBC versus IRC). The Code Officials are making the final vote to be inconsistent. Who really knows that they are thinking? Maybe there are some considerations about the cost/feasibility/loss-of life-potentials "analysis" going in their heads. OR, they might be just following the recommendations of the committee for that code. The voting Code Officials might not be the same people for each code! Large jurisdictions might have separate departments handling Commercial buildings versus IRC buildings. The Code Officials sometimes figure out that what they decided on has "unintended consequences" and approve proposals to fix the problem (or even reverse the original position.) With a consensus process and non-unanimous voting criteria, I guess that happens sometimes.
Errata, as I understand it, is where ICC Staff makes a mistake in publishing the results of the code development process. The approved proposal changes the code in certain ways and the code book shows something technically different (or doesn't reflect the proposal change at all). I wish they could get a better handle on those issues.
ADAguy
REGISTERED
We are not all perfect but sometimes confused, "it depends"
This is a model home and will be sold as a home. Real Estate agents stage homes all the time and use the space as an office during showings, open house etc. The basement area usually has utility/mech equipment and is not an area containing a primary function. Setting up office in the basement does not create a primary function for a home.
if public activity/use is to be carried out in the basement then an accessible path will be required. Show that all public accommodation can be provided at the temporary garage level office.
if public activity/use is to be carried out in the basement then an accessible path will be required. Show that all public accommodation can be provided at the temporary garage level office.
ADAguy
REGISTERED
Sergoodo "gets it", yeah!
steveray
SAWHORSE
On further thought, a person needing an accessible home is not going to buy one they can't get into to look at....Certainly not new construction anyway...
ADAguy
REGISTERED
Stevie "gets it" too.
Yes, many folks with disabilities have the ability to buy a house.
Yes, many folks with disabilities have the ability to buy a house.