6 Feet Ramps Either Side Landing

[Phil B]

I've got (2) 6 feet long ramps either side of a landing. The ramps are at 1:12 slope and therefore do not rise more than 6". No handrails required....correct?

 

[steveray]

Slicing the bologna real thin....Don't miss....

 

[Mr. Inspector]

2018 IBC says if no handrails they need flared sides

1012.10 Edge protection. Edge protection complying with
Section 1012.10.1 or 1012.10.2 shall be provided on each
side of ramp runs and at each side of ramp landings.
Exceptions:
1. Edge protection is not required on ramps that are not
required to have handrails, provided they have
flared sides that comply with the ICC A117.1 curb
ramp provisions.
2. Edge protection is not required on the sides of ramp
landings serving an adjoining ramp run or stairway.
3. Edge protection is not required on the sides of ramp
landings having a vertical dropoff of not more than
1/2 inch (12.7 mm) within 10 inches (254 mm) horizontally
of the required landing area.

 

[Phil B]

Slicing the bologna real thin....Don't miss....

There are walls on all sides....no open edges. Love your analogy, or is that a metaphor?

 

[Inspector Gift]

Does ADA requirements apply? If so, Door swing and maneuvering clearances may affect the middle landing. (ICC A117.1-2017, Section 404.2.3.2.)

 

[Yikes]

You did not say where the project is located.
ADAS says:

California edited it as follows:

 

[walker.t]

I've got (2) 6 feet long ramps either side of a landing.

Would the configuration shown be considered “ramps that change direction between runs at landings” that requires a 60”x60” landing per ADA 405.7.4?

Does ADA requirements apply? If so, Door swing and maneuvering clearances may affect the middle landing. (ICC A117.1-2017, Section 404.2.3.2.)

The 60” deep maneuvering clearance on the pull side of the door will require a larger landing even if this isn’t considered a change in direction.

 

[Phil B]

You did not say where the project is located.
ADAS says:
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California edited it as follows:
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Project is in Florida. From the Florida Accessibility Code:

 

[Yikes]

If there’s any way to swing one or more doors inward, or to recess them, you could do a 10’ slope hall at 4.9% and then you would only need level door clearances, not ramp landing clearances.

 

[Jean Tessmer-HI]

I've got (2) 6 feet long ramps either side of a landing. The ramps are at 1:12 slope and therefore do not rise more than 6". No handrails required....correct?

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Per the ADA you do not need handrails on 1:12 slope up to six feet long.

 

[Phil B]

If there’s any way to swing one or more doors inward, or to recess them, you could do a 10’ slope hall at 4.9% and then you would only need level door clearances, not ramp landing clearances.

Good idea, thanks! Even though it looks like I can achieve a compliant arrangement with 6' feet segments on both legs, the 5% leg on the top would help. I'm restricted on length on the bottom leg. Door maneuvering clearance in yellow, ramp in green.