Accessory use fixture count for apartment rec room?

[Yikes]

I have an proposed new apartment building with a recreation room. The tenants all have access to the restrooms within their own units. The owner would like to provide one single accommodation (unisex) toilet for use by the rental office staff and for any residents visiting the rec room. For sake of discussion, let's assume the rec room is over 750 SF and over 50 occupants.

Does the code compel separate-sex restrooms? Or, because the rec room is an accessory for use by the apartment tenants, does the rec room not factor in to any fixture counts at all?

Our state health code allows apartment swimming pools to not have adjacent bathrooms if the pool is within 250' of each apartment. Is there a similar concept for accessory recreation rooms?

 

[cda]

Where do the swimming pool, attached to the rec room, people go? Besides in the pool?

 

[Yikes]

cda, I only mentioned the pool by way of analogy. The owner has not yet decided whether they will provide a pool or not.

Using that analogy, if you are having a party in the rec room for 75 tenants, and 5 of them need to use the toilet, one can use the immediatley adjacent single accommodation toilet, and the other 4 ostensibly can return to their own units to use their own toilets.

 

[Frank]

Once over 15 people separate facilities required for each sex.

Is the rec room available for use by tenants for birthday parties etc. where most of the attendees are not from the complex?

 

[cda]

cda, I only mentioned the pool by way of analogy. The owner has not yet decided whether they will provide a pool or not.Using that analogy, if you are having a party in the rec room for 75 tenants, and 5 of them need to use the toilet, one can use the immediatley adjacent single accommodation toilet, and the other 4 ostensibly can return to their own units to use their own toilets.

If they live there and majority are not guest?

 

[steveray]

I am with frank on this......A use, provide separate as appropriate by OL...

 

[JPohling]

They all have living rooms and kitchen facilities in there units too.................send em all back home to party, no rec room needed

 

[fatboy]

But they won't "go" there, provide the required facilities..........

 

[north star]

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See Section 2902.2, Exception # 2 [ `12 IBC ]......Separate facilities are required.



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[mark handler]

Originial Poster in Southern California, I assume project in CA

2013 CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE

422.2 Separate Facilities. Separate toi let facilities shall be provided for each sex.

Exceptions:

(1) Residential installations.

(2)In occupancies with a total occupant load of 10 or less including customers and employees, one toilet facility, designed for use by no more than one person at a time, shall be permitted for use by both sexes.

(3) In business and mercantile occupancies with a total occupant load of 50 or less including customers and employees, one toilet facility, designed for use by no more than one person at a time, shan be permitted for use by both sexes.

If less than fifty, like a restaurant, You might consider it a "B" needing one restroom

If you call it is meeting room like a conference room you will need two

 

[Yikes]

Thanks for all the input. I'm inclined to agree that 50 is the magic number. Less than that, it's a residential accessory installation.

Yes Mark, it is in the San Joaquin Valley.

 

[mark handler]

San Joaquin Valley.

An area larger than some states, but sill in CA