Glennman CBO
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2009 IBC, 2003 ANSI, 2009 EIBC
Partial change of occupancy; M to B (hair salon). They are building a single partition, 8' long and floor to ceiling, and are also adding several sinks, hair drying stations, cabinets, carpet, paint, etc. Total valuation is $10,000.
(IEBC 310.7) These alterations are in the primary function of the space, but are not affecting the non primary functions (restrooms).
The restrooms are not accessible, and there may also be issues with the lack of an accessible entrance, etc.
Per the section quoted, the accessible route to the primary function shall be accessible, and shall include toilet facilities. Then I go to 310.8.11, etc.
Questions... (1) if the alterations do not include or affect the restrooms, do I require them to initiate alterations there? The section implies that they are only required to provide an accessible route TO the restrooms.
(2) If changes are required to be made to the restrooms beyond their original scope of alterations, how far do they have to go since they only need to apply 20% of the cost of the alterations to these accessible elements (remodel 1/2 the restroom?)? In this case, if they were required to install a family or assisted use restroom, it would more than likely exceed 20% of the project valuation.
(3) Who decides where the 20% applies? If they spend 15% of the cost of the alteration to the accessilble entrance, can they apply 5% to the restrooms (maybe add a couple of grab bars, and some lever hardware to a restroom that doesn't have a 5 ft turning radius)?
Some of this is based on a history of wrongly applied codes to some of these issues, so I am playing devil's advocate to a degree. Part of the questions apply to a current plan review, but it branches into other areas of generality. Any help is appreciated.
Partial change of occupancy; M to B (hair salon). They are building a single partition, 8' long and floor to ceiling, and are also adding several sinks, hair drying stations, cabinets, carpet, paint, etc. Total valuation is $10,000.
(IEBC 310.7) These alterations are in the primary function of the space, but are not affecting the non primary functions (restrooms).
The restrooms are not accessible, and there may also be issues with the lack of an accessible entrance, etc.
Per the section quoted, the accessible route to the primary function shall be accessible, and shall include toilet facilities. Then I go to 310.8.11, etc.
Questions... (1) if the alterations do not include or affect the restrooms, do I require them to initiate alterations there? The section implies that they are only required to provide an accessible route TO the restrooms.
(2) If changes are required to be made to the restrooms beyond their original scope of alterations, how far do they have to go since they only need to apply 20% of the cost of the alterations to these accessible elements (remodel 1/2 the restroom?)? In this case, if they were required to install a family or assisted use restroom, it would more than likely exceed 20% of the project valuation.
(3) Who decides where the 20% applies? If they spend 15% of the cost of the alteration to the accessilble entrance, can they apply 5% to the restrooms (maybe add a couple of grab bars, and some lever hardware to a restroom that doesn't have a 5 ft turning radius)?
Some of this is based on a history of wrongly applied codes to some of these issues, so I am playing devil's advocate to a degree. Part of the questions apply to a current plan review, but it branches into other areas of generality. Any help is appreciated.