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Ambulatory Health Care Facility

Mr. Inspector

Mr. Inspector

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2009 IBC. B use.

Looking at a health care facilty. It has x-ray room, labs, waitingroom, treatment room, and 9 exam rooms. It is also showing a ambulace entrance. Does the ambulance entrance make this make it an Ambulatory Health Care Facility which requires sprinklers per 903.2.2?
 
Just wondering why the ambulance? It it outgoing going just in case? Any "procedures" being done there? What types of treatment? Med gas? Anesthesia?
 
So what do they say they are doing there??

Any day surgery

What do they label the place as??
 
Ambulatory means that the patients typically can walk in and walk out--not that it has an ambulance entrance.

I expect that the ambulance entrance is to provide discreet access to emergency transportion to a suitable hospital/emergency room care should a patient need it.

Taking such a patient in a gurney through the waiting/lobby area is bad for business at these types of facilities. ;)
 
rshuey said:
Way to spoil it. I was hoping for some more responses before someone posted the actual meaning....
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I'll hold my tongue, er, fingers, next time. :P
 
Maybe it should be an ambulance exit if they are only using it to transfer patients elsewhere. But if the patient needs to be wheeled out I would asume that they are incapable of self-preservation which would still make it an Ambulatory Health Care Facility.
 
kilitact said:
Ambulatory is where individuals are rendered incapable of self-preservation.
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Au contraire. Ambulatory: "relating to walking: relating to or equipped for walking"

A person who is rendered incapable of self-preservation is not ambulatory. However, the IBC definition states that individuals may be rendered incapable of self preservation while in the care of such a facility due to minor surgical procedures, dialysis, or other procedures that would not allow a patient to exit immediately. However, they will not be housed over night in such a facility. In other words, they walk in, have the procedure done (incapable of self-preservation), then walk out later.
 
So what do they say they are doing there??

Any day surgery

What do they label the place as??
 
RLGA said:
Au contraire. Ambulatory: "relating to walking: relating to or equipped for walking"A person who is rendered incapable of self-preservation is not ambulatory. However, the IBC definition states that individuals may be rendered incapable of self preservation while in the care of such a facility due to minor surgical procedures, dialysis, or other procedures that would not allow a patient to exit immediately. However, they will not be housed over night in such a facility. In other words, they walk in, have the procedure done (incapable of self-preservation), then walk out later.
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Definitions

Section 202

Ambulatory Health Care Facility. Buildings or portions thereof used to provide medical, surgical, psychiatric, nursing or similar care on a less than 24-hour basis to individuals who are rendered incapable of self-preservation.

Looks like it states "are rendered incapable" not may.
 
kilitact:

That's the definition of an "ambulatory health care facility," not "ambulatory." Ambulatory has the definition as I stated above. An ambulatory health care facility means that a person can walk in, receive treatment, then walk out within a 24-hour period. If there is a chance that a person may be "rendered incapable of self-preservation" while in treatment, then it is an ambulatory health care facility. Not all patients at the facility will be rendered as such.
 
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Sounds like a B unless they knock out 4 people then sprinkle it

Are they showing any med gas?
 
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kilitact said:
Ambulatory is where individuals are rendered incapable of self-preservation.
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dictionary.com definition

am·bu·la·to·ry

[am-byuh-luh-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee] Show IPA adjective, noun, plural am·bu·la·to·ries.

adjective

1. of, pertaining to, or capable of walking: an ambulatory exploration of the countryside.

2. adapted for walking, as the limbs of many animals.

3. moving about or from place to place; not stationary: an ambulatory tribe.

4. Also, ambulant. Medicine/Medical .

a. not confined to bed; able or strong enough to walk: an ambulatory patient.

b. serving patients who are able to walk: an ambulatory care center.

5. Law. not fixed; alterable or revocable: ambulatory will.

BS
 
BSSTG said:
dictionary.com definition am·bu·la·to·ry

[am-byuh-luh-tawr-ee, -tohr-ee] Show IPA adjective, noun, plural am·bu·la·to·ries.

adjective

1. of, pertaining to, or capable of walking: an ambulatory exploration of the countryside.

2. adapted for walking, as the limbs of many animals.

3. moving about or from place to place; not stationary: an ambulatory tribe.

4. Also, ambulant. Medicine/Medical .

a. not confined to bed; able or strong enough to walk: an ambulatory patient.

b. serving patients who are able to walk: an ambulatory care center.

5. Law. not fixed; alterable or revocable: ambulatory will.

BS
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Yes, where your ambulatory and rendered incapable of self-preservation
 
You could be rendered incapable of self-preservation while your there even if you can walk in and out. You could be in the middle of getting a cast on or on anesthesia.
 
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