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Any reason why IPE could not be used in heavy timber?

JPohling

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California Building Code applies. Looking at a deck and shade structure design that is immediately adjacent but not attached to a 3 story Type II-B fully fire sprinklered building. Proposing heavy timber construction per note 19. of 603.1. Table 601 note c. allows heavy timber when rating is 1-hour or less. Type II-B A or B are 1 hour or less.

Would there be any reason that the species IPE would not be allowed for the construction of the deck and shade structure if all member sizes meet CBC 2304.11?

Is there something that would require that Heavy Timber be a more common species like Doug Fir/Larch, Southern Yellow Pine, etc?
 
Never seen a requirement other than size, but not a big HT guy....IPE certainly does not like to burn and that is what HT is all about....I theory if you could find a big enough balsa wood tree and make it work structurally you would be good.....(Do they still make those balsa wood planes I had when I was a kid?)
 
I just went through something similar, and while the HT canopy structure had a one hour rating in accordance with IBC chapter 6, it did not meet the definition of a limited combustible material per NPFA and we were required to install a dry sprinkler system under the HT canopies.
 
I just went through something similar, and while the HT canopy structure had a one hour rating in accordance with IBC chapter 6, it did not meet the definition of a limited combustible material per NPFA and we were required to install a dry sprinkler system under the HT canopies.
We do not have any issues adding sprinklers, preferably wet from the building system. Where did the NFPA requirement come from. code path.
 
this is going by memory, but NFPA 13 (8.15.7.?) allows for sprinklers to be omitted under canopies when the construction is non-combustible or limited combustible material.

NFPA 220 then defines what constitutes a limited combustible material which then refers you to ASTM E 84 testing.
 
IBC CH. 9 and NFPA 13 tell you where you don't need sprinklers....And as Tim said, there is a general gimmie for non and limited combustible (such as above a dropped ceiling)....FRTW meets limited combustible, but not non-combustible...
 
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