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Beyond the Scope of the Codes II (Re-Do)

FM William Burns

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Once again received a complaint and went out to follow up and investigate:

All polypropylene mixes:

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Enter the facility to verify storage heights previously approved at 12' with 4-8' aisles since we required sprinkler system upgrade years ago when they moved in and changed the hazard: (Just a little too high and dense)

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Walk the manager outside to look at another issue (blocked/packed exit) see the door????

he says he can open it from inside:

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I say lets see....as I keep my grin in and watch as he pounds the door with his hip trying to move the piles :)

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I felt bad that this didn't have a response on it :) so I had to post one. This was the first facility that led to citations and upgrades in two other large warehouse facilities due to improper sprinkler coverage scheme.
 
Looks like you have a lot of plastic poly stuff in your jurisdiction.

Hey! Where's that fire extinguisher (should be ona hook next to the door) ?
 
Mac said:
Looks like you have a lot of plastic poly stuff in your jurisdiction.Hey! Where's that fire extinguisher (should be ona hook next to the door) ?
The manager was using it to try to beat the door open! :)
 
Mac, It was actually on the floor out of picture. Yes, we have one of the world's largest manufacturers of this stuff and this chipping facility is one of the spin offs that have to learn how to keep less product on site versus keeping up with production.......not my problem though.
 
Are we to assume this is the recycling part of the 'business' where plastic is rescued from the landfill to be 're-used' in some new-fangled better way? Since it's such a 'green' concept, aren't you supposed to turn a blind eye to the dangers of a lack of planning? NOT. I don't envy you...or the firemen who might have to respond to such a scene.
 
"....have to learn how to keep less product on site"

Maybe they can find a warehouse outside of your town!
 
Yea Carol...this stuff puts off some thick smoke. Takes a while to get going but copious amounts of water are needed ...like a tire fire. 2.4 mile evacuation area down wind if this goes up :(
 
RJJ said:
So was the owners comment: Whats wrong?
No, the owner's comment was " We have never had a fire and never will." Then after the fire, he will say "I do not know why we had a fire, we never had one before."
 
Actually...he said I know you would be coming by soon :) and I didn't want to let them down. Problem now is the poor guy who took on the overflow has had to spend $$$$ getting the exterior warning devices working, fire pump surpervision (NFPA 20) installed, and an alarm panel that can handle the various zone supervision for all the control valves x 8 and off site monitoring. The 4 zone with DACT just didn't work out. Hope the storage income is worth the added costs???? Mean old FMWB
 
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