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I'd say about half the time the language is the exact opposite, as in "they don't make me do this in <insert nearby big city>," but I suspect a large portion of that is just compost in its original form.
That is just the negative of the same concept. "I work in this big city and they are the strictest. If they don't make me do it, you must be wrong."
 
That is just the negative of the same concept. "I work in this big city and they are the strictest. If they don't make me do it, you must be wrong."
Eh, poorly worded on my part. I suspect that most of the time they're saying "they don't make me do it in the Big City"t they're full of crap. They just didn't expect the rural yokels to have the same standards.
 
Eh, poorly worded on my part. I suspect that most of the time they're saying "they don't make me do it in the Big City"t they're full of crap. They just didn't expect the rural yokels to have the same standards.
Sometimes they are. A lot of what I experienced was that they really weren't made to do that in the adjacent city and thought I was overstepping my authority.

We had a lot of people approach senior management and elected officials with the "Why can I build in <city>, but I have all this trouble building here", so we coached them on their response: "Because the people who live here both expect and deserve safe and health buildings built to code. If you can't build those, maybe you should only take work in <city> where it sounds like they are less concerned about that."
 
Sometimes they are. A lot of what I experienced was that they really weren't made to do that in the adjacent city and thought I was overstepping my authority
I worked for LA County. There are dozens of separate district offices and contract cities that contractors point to. When they tell me that nobody but me asks for whatever it was, they are being truthful.
 
Sometimes they are. A lot of what I experienced was that they really weren't made to do that in the adjacent city and thought I was overstepping my authority.

We had a lot of people approach senior management and elected officials with the "Why can I build in <city>, but I have all this trouble building here", so we coached them on their response: "Because the people who live here both expect and deserve safe and health buildings built to code. If you can't build those, maybe you should only take work in <city> where it sounds like they are less concerned about that."

This lies at our office policy of always giving a Code reference when we say something ain't right.

The line I hear so often it ... well, if I had a buck every time I heard it I could go out today and buy that used ATV I've been yearning for.

"I didn't have to do that before?"

No, you did have to do that before - it's not my fault that I'm the first one to tell you.
 
This lies at our office policy of always giving a Code reference when we say something ain't right.

Pre-COVID, the chief prosecutor for housing and building code matters from the State's Attorney's Office used to put on an annual all-day training seminar for building officials and fire marshals. Her mantra to us was, "If you don't have a code citation, you don't have a violation." She reminded us that despite not having badges and guns, people can be fined and/or imprisoned for violating building and fire codes, so we are law enforcement officers. Our citations are no different than a traffic cop's citation -- we HAVE TO inform a person of what law or regulation they are [allegedly] violating.

The line I hear so often it ... well, if I had a buck every time I heard it I could go out today and buy that used ATV I've been yearning for.

"I didn't have to do that before?"

No, you did have to do that before - it's not my fault that I'm the first one to tell you.

Yep. I cited to code section(s) that apply. It's not my problem if the officials in [___] didn't do their job.
 
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