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That would include the manufactures installation instructions IMHObrudgers said:When a code is adopted, everything incorporated by reference is adopted as well.
That would include the manufactures installation instructions IMHObrudgers said:When a code is adopted, everything incorporated by reference is adopted as well.
Warranties are not a building code issue and Owners should discuss their specifics with their attorney.Min&Max said:I would be very reluctant to have something installed contrary to the manufacturers instructions. You are effectively voiding any warranty the contractor/consumer may have had through the manufacturer. In my opinion, typically the manufacturers instructions are going to supercede code requirements.
I had a site (can't remember the job anymore, memory getting foggy) - the contractor HAD read the manf instructions and he was VERY happy to show off his new $500 staplers to me. As I recall he had bought two of them, it was a quirky requirement and I can't say that I would have caught it, but since he had laid out the money for them he was darn sure that I was going to notice and note them.steveray said:Thanks MT....maybe I got that name wrong...It is not the Pactiv stuff,,, it is made by a tarp company in China somewhere....http://www.icc-es.org/reports/pdf_files/ICC-ES/ESR-2252.pdf
That stuff....easy guard....it has an ES but nohting on sealing or flashing or anything but some fastening.....and then tell them they need to find 1" crown staples and they can't use their old Bostich hammer tacker....
IT SEEMS MOST OF THE MANUFACTURERS CALL FOR THIS NOW......sorry... forgot about caps.....or the plastic capped fasteners....answer I hear the most is.."the siding will hold it on"...Jeez! sorry!...What was I thinking for trying to make you follow the instructions?mmmarvel said:I had a site (can't remember the job anymore, memory getting foggy) - the contractor HAD read the manf instructions and he was VERY happy to show off his new $500 staplers to me. As I recall he had bought two of them, it was a quirky requirement and I can't say that I would have caught it, but since he had laid out the money for them he was darn sure that I was going to notice and note them.
Oh I needed to LOLsteveray said:IT SEEMS MOST OF THE MANUFACTURERS CALL FOR THIS NOW......sorry... forgot about caps.....or the plastic capped fasteners....answer I hear the most is.."the siding will hold it on"...Jeez! sorry!...What was I thinking for trying to make you follow the instructions?
Correct, unless locally adopted....pete_t said:MarkI don't believe R102.4 is adopted. See the Matrix Adoption Table.
you don't think that already happens? As long as manufacturers can be the proponent of code changes, it'll always happen. Manufacturer's instructions often times provide additional requirements beyond the Code minimumMark K said:The formally adopted code has to trump any manufacturer's instructions other wise you would empower the manufacturer to redefine the code requirements. If the issue was litigated the lawyers and judges would have problems with the idea that the manufacturer of a product could preempt government regulations.This suggests that just because something found its way into the building code it could still be illegal.