conspicuous point

[JayHawkInspector]

Here is the situation, a furnace with air coils in a basement with only a primary condensation line. Now they are faced with installing a secondary condensation line and the discussion falls to where is a conspicuous point of disposal for the secondary, some say the floor drain is a conspicuous point and the primary is already piped to the floor drain. So the question is how many people who agree with the floor drain being a conspicuous point of disposal. (IRC) M1411.3.1 Auxiliary and secondary drain systems gives three different options and I can’t seem to find floor drains in any of these options.

 

[Glennman CBO]

Is the basement finished or unfinished?

If they can see the condensate coming out of the pipe that doesn't normally have condensate coming from it, then it is conspicuous.

The point is not the kind of drain it is draining into, so much as the visibility of the water coming out so that they are alerted to the fact that there is a problem.

If there is a floor drain, and no carpet, they do not need the secondary drain pipe. They only need the secondary drain if there is a potential of damaging building components.

 

[Uncle Bob]

JayHawk,

Use options 3. or 4.; often used in attics. It will shut the unit off in case of overflow.

Number 4 brings to light a repeated problem. The primary drain is often blocked because the coils are usually not cleaned on a regular basis.

Uncle Bob

 

[peach]

UB..

since I'm too lazy this morning to look in the code, I'm asssuming options 3 or 4 both incorporate a float switch... which I thought (maybe dementia setting in) is always required in an attic.

A floor drain is certainly a conspicuous point.. if you ever go into the basement. If you don't, it's not.

Since the float switch will cut the unit off, eventually someone will go check it out.... "Wow, Mildred isn't it getting hot in here... go check the basement and bring me back on beer on your way thru the kitchen"...

 

[Uncle Bob]

Peach,

Sorry, I too am lazy this morning; and, didn't want to write the section. Yes, a water detecting switch that turns off the unit.

A little chilly this morning; but, things are looking up for golf.

Uncle Bob

 

[peach]

chilly here too this morning.. soon to be almost too hot for golf.

WE get old... WE get lazy... I see a pattern emerging (yup.. the codes are right beside me)...

It's been a long week!