Corridor question

[sergoodo]

My bottom line I think is

If you have a non sprinkled building

A corridor

An occupant load of 30 using that corridor

You cannot say 15 will go one way and 15 will go another way

There for I do Not have to rate the corridor

You do.

It serves 30

Agreed...sort of, but if you have a single story 2 exit required building that has a waiting room with an occupancy of 30 with exit directly to the exterior, I interpret you would not add 30 occupants to the corridor to access the 2nd bldg exit. This interpretation is in line with the the exception to classrooms with doors to exterior where in a building that requires 2 exits you can say the kids will go this way...

 

[mtlogcabin]

In a non-sprinklered building the rating of the corridor is not determined by how many exits there are from the corridor or the building. It is determined by how many people will be using the corridor. If 2 exits are required you have to add 1/2 the waiting room OL to the corridor they will be forced to use. If the accumulative number exceeds 30 then it has to be rated

 

[FM William Burns]

I like Jake Pauls studies


http://www.securityinfowatch.com/article/10592478/an-introduction-to-stadium-and-arena-egress-design


http://www.bldguse.com/Welcome.html

I sit on the MOE TC with my esteemed colleague Jake and love working with him and others.

 

[cda]

I sit on the MOE TC with my esteemed colleague Jake and love working with him and others.

I was trying to find some of his study videos and post them

 

[JBI]

To be clear... the Code does not require any occupant to go in any particular direction to any particular exit.
What the code requires is that where there are more than one exit, the loss of any one exit will not reduce the total capacity by more than 50%.
That does not require half the occupants to go one way or the other, it simply ensures that if any one exit is compromised that the remaining exit(s) will be able to handle the occupants egressing from the space.

 

[cda]

To be clear... the Code does not require any occupant to go in any particular direction to any particular exit.
What the code requires is that where there are more than one exit, the loss of any one exit will not reduce the total capacity by more than 50%.
That does not require half the occupants to go one way or the other, it simply ensures that if any one exit is compromised that the remaining exit(s) will be able to handle the occupants egressing from the space.

Best explanation during this political year I have heard.

 

[Chadchester1]

Can someone please explain to me the fire door requirements in a sprinkled building or where I can find that information? I'm looking for the actual code telling me what the doors should be rated in a particular rated wall and how it breaks down.

 

[cda]

Can someone please explain to me the fire door requirements in a sprinkled building or where I can find that information? I'm looking for the actual code telling me what the doors should be rated in a particular rated wall and how it breaks down.

Which edition and building code do you want referenced

 

[cda]

Can someone please explain to me the fire door requirements in a sprinkled building or where I can find that information? I'm looking for the actual code telling me what the doors should be rated in a particular rated wall and how it breaks down.

The answer can vary

Normally worse case scenario 20 minute door.

Where corridors are not rated, can have any type door to no door at all

 

[mtlogcabin]

Table 716.5 2012 IBC

Sprinkled or not the requirements are the same

 

[cda]

Table 716.5 2012 IBC

Sprinkled or not the requirements are the same

How's that??

 

[steveray]

The wall rating may change based on sprinklers but the opening protective rating is driven off of the wall rating...And I believe all rated walls need rated OP....At least 20 min.

 

[my250r11]

2009 IBC Table 715.4

 

[FM William Burns]

I like Jake Pauls studies


http://www.securityinfowatch.com/article/10592478/an-introduction-to-stadium-and-arena-egress-design


http://www.bldguse.com/Welcome.html

I know a guy that sits on the MOE committee with Jake. He and this guy dined together in June and had great conversations on human behavior, those mentioned and stairs of course.