CPC changes UPC only

[ICE]

The current code says that the immediate adjoining space of a shower stall that does not have a threshold shall be considered a wet location. That has changed to include the entire floor of the room that the shower stall is located in. An "immediate adjoining space" is hard to pin down and the entire floor takes the guess work out of it.

 

[Msradell]

The current code says that the immediate adjoining space of a shower stall that does not have a threshold shall be considered a wet location. That has changed to include the entire floor of the room that the shower stall is located in. An "immediate adjoining space" is hard to pin down and the entire floor takes the guess work out of it.

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I can see that conflicting with some of the ADA requirements since you are Req to have a curbless entry to a shower to meet the requirements. That means that every ADA accessible bathroom is now going to be considered a wet space?

 

[ICE]

That means that every ADA accessible bathroom is now going to be considered a wet space?

That works for me. The floor is the only component that is a wet location. As it stands now there is always the question of waterproofing the floor. Should the shower pan extend out and how far? How much of the floor should slope to the drain? This code change provides clarity in that the entire floor has to be water tight and all of it should slope to the drain.

There was a time when the only residential showers without a threshold were in cases of special needs. I recall several that were built for people that were injured and left paralyzed. Then a few years back the curb-less showers became a thing. Lots of people wanted and built them. Well there's a trade off for the vanity bathrooms. You can have that shower at a cost.

 

[e hilton]

Does that change now trigger a requirement for additional grab bars in the room? Certain types of slip resistant flooring?

 

[Mr. Inspector]

Need covers over outlets in the whole bathroom too?

 

[ICE]

Does that change now trigger a requirement for additional grab bars in the room? Certain types of slip resistant flooring?

That doesn’t happen with a shower stall floor.

 

[ICE]

Need covers over outlets in the whole bathroom too?

It does reference the electrical code. To what extent is a question yet to be answered.

 

[Robert]

So membrane goes over the entire bathroom floor and up the walls? What happens at the toilet and door?

 

[steveray]

I see more safety glazing.....as ICE says only the "floor space" is in play, I am not sure that WR receptacles and bubble covers and wet location light fixtures are in play, but we will see.....

 

[Ed Cooke]

That basic verbiage was in the 2016 and 2019 CPC also. The change is only basic for wording.

 

[ICE]

That basic verbiage was in the 2016 and 2019 CPC also. The change is only basic for wording.

The code went from "adjoining area" to the entire "room". That is more than semantics.

 

[Ed Cooke]

Wow, very sorry there was a misunderstanding. I have been working in places where 95% of the businesses on multi-level buildings have required the entire bathroom to be what amounts to a full and complete shower room, with or without a shower. What I was referencing, and still am, is the protection has been warranted for much longer than the code required. Yes, now it specifically states "Where there is a shower without a threshold" as compared to the wording of an immediate adjoining space". Most people get this, but there were a few jurisdictions taking liberties about how far to consider what was a wet location. Certainly nothing about semantics, just a clarification for knuckleheads who over legislate the space.