Re: 16' Garage Door Headers
kilitact said:
brudgers wrote;
The person properly qualified to determine the "critical thing" is a design professional.
Rick a wrote;
Of course but not necessarily a Registered Design Professional
Try to remember the IRC code definition for design professional is one who is a Registered Design Professional.
A non-professional designer, such as yourself, is not registered.
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Try to remember the definition applies only within the context of the words & terms as applied and used in the code. It does not intend to negate the ordinary meaning of words and terms (such as those found in the code) when not used within the code.
Try also to remember the "Design Professional" is almost exclusively used in section title headers. Pass the headers and into the actual code section, the words
Registered design professional is used.
There is obvious reason for that. The code is simply silent about a design professional who is not registered because they are wanting to be clear about what group of design professionals is being meant by when the term "Design Professional" as far as the applicability of the code section(s). Over the years, they have gone as far as using the term "Registered Design Professional".
There is reasons also for the problematic context issue. The reason - the model code is built to try to comply with the most restrictive laws such as places like New Jersey or New York where there is no exemption and the only Design Professionals are Registered. It is somewhat complicated when the code is developed by a schizophrenic committee(s) and amended by each state's own schizophrenic committee(s) and they don't always deal with every word.
You should assume the meaning as the context applies in each code section. In the code sections (as of current), you can safely assume that it is registered design professional that is meant by when Design Professional is used as far as applicability. But you should also recognize that design professional as a word has multiple meaning and when we are using it outside the context of a code section - that we are using a broader industry-wide use of the term which DOES include persons who are not licensed/registered.
There is NO terminology used in the code to refer to someone who is not registered other then person which can also refer to an RDP depending on sentence, paragraph, or code section context. There is no such term as "non-professional designer" used in the code. When you start applying such terms, then you are defaulting to industry terminology which can apply the ordinary dictionary definition of the words. In such case, I would disagree with you on such terminology about a building designer.
Therefore, Unregistered Design Professional (UDP) OR Non-registered Design Professional (NDP) would be appropriate and less insulting. Just use RDP (Registered Design Professional) when you are referring to a registered design professional. Use one of the two above (UDP or NDP) to refer to a non-registered design professional (and use an ordinary dictionary definition - which would include building designers, home designers, interior designers, IDP interns, construction contractors who does Design/Build, and others who does design services or work in the architectural, building, interior and landscape Design industry for a living.
Construction Contractors are licensed to construct but may not be licensed or registered as an Architect or Engineer. However, a Construction Contractor may be an RDP if they are registered as an Architect, Engineer or whatever design occupation is required to be licensed/registered in order to perform such services. In Oregon, that may include: Architects, Professional Engineers (any of the disciplines), Professional Land Surveyors, Geologist, Landscape Architects, ect.
A "Non-Professional" would be a home owner who does not work in the design/construction occupation. Example: A home owner who designs their own house. Ok. They are a "Non-professional" or "Non-Professional Designer". They don't do this for a living.
Kilitact, this is how I view it and I personally take it as an insult to be called a non-professional designer. I am done arguing with you but if you are going to use terms that are not even in the code book then why should we be bound by the code definition when we are talking industry terms &
design professional has multiple definitions and some include building designers such as myself. Believe me, I do feel like heading over to your office and yanking you out of your little cubicle office and show you what building designers do.