Door Swing Adjacent to Sink/Urinal

[psal]

I'm working on a renovation where the owner is adding two new bathrooms. Is there an issue in having the out-swinging accessible stall doors be so close to the sink and urinal in the screenshot below? Two sinks and urinals are provided (one accessible, one not). The door swing is not impeding on the clearance of the accessible sink/urinal.
The project is under 2018 IBC.

 

[BN4537]

Not ideal, but I do not believe it is a violation. I don't really see a better way to utilize the space. If the doors were hinged the other way, you would lose the latch-side clearances.

 

[mark handler]

2010 ADASAD 603.2.3 Door Swing. Doors shall not swing into the clear floor space or clearance required for any fixture. Doors shall be permitted to swing into the required turning space.

 

[steveray]

Looks like you could keep the accessible fixtures out of it...

ANSI 603.2.2​

Doors shall not swing into the clear floor space or clearance for any fixture.

Exceptions:

1. 1.Doors to a toilet or bathing room for a single occupant, accessed only through a private office and not for common use or public use shall be permitted to swing into the clear floor space, provided the swing of the door can be reversed to comply with Section 603.2.2.
2. 2.Where the room is for individual use and a clear floor space complying with Section 305.3 is provided within the room beyond the arc of the door swing, the door shall not be required to comply with Section 603.2.2.

 

[psal]

Thank you all. Agreed that it's not ideal, but may be the best we can do within the space constraints.

 

[Yankee Chronicler]

I thought I remembered something in the ADA and/or A117.1 that says toilet compartment aren't subject to 603.2.2 -- but I don't see it, and I'm on my way out for a meeting so I don't have time to do a deep dive.

 

[walker.t]

I'm working on a renovation

Is that a transom-height window in the men’s toilet compartment? If not you might have a problem with the vertical grab bar required in 117.1-2009 604.5.1.

 

[Tim Mailloux]

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[Yikes]

If you make the accessible urinal the furthest one away from the toilet, you will achieve the required 30x48 clearance (you may need 36” width if the walls+ partitions form an alcove >24” deep.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think that non-accessible urinals have a minimum required depth of space that will conflict with the door swing.

 

[walker.t]

(you may need 36” width if the walls+ partitions form an alcove >24” deep.

Good catch!

That made me look closer at the lavatory, that would require 36” clearance between the wall and the partition. I scaled the image using the 30”x48” floor clearance as a reference, it was about 35.75” so probably drawn at 36”.

Reminds me of the time I drew a corridor only 1/2” wider than the minimum clear width required, principal of the firm didn’t like that, said I wasn’t leaving much room for error in the field.

 

[Amy Reineri]

I'm working on a renovation where the owner is adding two new bathrooms. Is there an issue in having the out-swinging accessible stall doors be so close to the sink and urinal in the screenshot below? Two sinks and urinals are provided (one accessible, one not). The door swing is not impeding on the clearance of the accessible sink/urinal.
The project is under 2018 IBC.

View attachment 16655

My head is now filled with 2021 code multi-user, but as I recall, the door swing into the restroom couldn't cross the turn radius but the one for the restroom could. I would remove the 2nd sink in the women's room so that the door swing from the accessible toilet doesn't lead to conflict in access.Then you can move the door and the turn radius away from the door into the restroom. For the mens' room .... that's more complicated and I would look at whether you might back the section of the unrinal/sink wall into the women's room just a bit to give you clearance between the door into the room and the 5' turn-around.

 

[Yikes]

My head is now filled with 2021 code multi-user, but as I recall, the door swing into the restroom couldn't cross the turn radius but the one for the restroom could.

I think post #3 quoting ADAS 603.2.3 shows that any door can swing completely over the 5' turning circle or T-turn. There is no distinction as to whether it is a toilet compartment door or a room entry/exit door.

Of course, local code may be different than ADA. For example, California modified 11B-603.2.3 as follows:
11B-603.2.3 Door Swing
Doors shall not swing into the clear floor space or clearance required for any fixture. Doors to accessible water closet compartments shall be permitted to encroach into the turning space without limitation. Other than doors to accessible water closet compartments, a door, in any position, shall be permitted to encroach into the turning space by 12 inches (305 mm) maximum.

 

[Yankee Chronicler]

Of course, local code may be different than ADA. For example, California modified 11B-603.2.3 as follows:
11B-603.2.3 Door Swing
Doors shall not swing into the clear floor space or clearance required for any fixture. Doors to accessible water closet compartments shall be permitted to encroach into the turning space without limitation. Other than doors to accessible water closet compartments, a door, in any position, shall be permitted to encroach into the turning space by 12 inches (305 mm) maximum.

That's the one I was thinking of.