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Dumb commercial truck section

I looked at Ford's website yesterday. It appears you can order an F250 with either a 9,900 lb GVWR or a 10,000 lb GVWR.
 
I did not know the ICC spoke for the Department of Motor Vehicles. Oregon has a specific definition of a commercial vehicle. Weight is one criteria, but I am not sure a dump truck carrying only 12 passengers meet the criteria.
 
Here's the actual text from the 2015 IBC for the definition of a Commercial Motor Vehicle:

COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

A motor vehicle used to transport passengers or property where the motor

vehicle:

1. Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds

(4540 kg) or more; or

2. Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including

the driver.

 
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While the `15 IBC definition of a Commercial vehicle leaves a lot to be desired,

...how would you clarify it to improve on it ?

Thanks!

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north star said:
( = )While the `15 IBC definition of a Commercial vehicle leaves a lot to be desired,

...how would you clarify it to improve on it ?

Thanks!

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Maybe a little hard with the various vehicles a available

Each states definition

Use of the vehicles

I wonder if you added quantity?? Over four , over three ???

Public use versus private as in someone's hobby garage??

Include truck and trailer,, as in landscaper??

ALSO, ??? What is a commercial garage ??????
 
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...and the various types of construction equipment & vehicles, etc.

Oy vey ! :eek:

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Also,

What is the hazard

What is the fire history

What is the factored fired hours
 
north star said:
( = )While the `15 IBC definition of a Commercial vehicle leaves a lot to be desired,

...how would you clarify it to improve on it ?

Thanks!

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[h=3]Introduction[/h]Commercial motor vehicles that operate on US highways can be classified based on their gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). The classification is divided into eight classes, one through eight, although many people use the more generic terms, light duty, medium duty and heavy duty.

[h=3]Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)[/h]The gross vehicle weight rating, more commonly known as the GVWR, is the maximum weight a vehicle is designed to carry including the net weight of the vehicle with accessories, plus the weight of passengers, fuel, and cargo. The GVWR is a safety standard used to prevent overloading. The vehicle manufacturer determines the maximum acceptable weight limits by considering the combined weight of the strongest weight bearing components, i.e. the axles, and the weaker components, for example the(vehicle body, frame, suspension and tires.[h=3]Light Duty Trucks[/h]The light duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 1, 2 and 3. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle.

  • Class 1 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 0 to 6,000 pounds (0 to 2,722kg).
  • Class 2 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 6,001 to 10,000 pounds (2,722 to 4,536 kg).
  • Class 3 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 10,001 to 14,000 pounds (4,536 to 6,350 kg).
[h=3]Medium Duty Trucks[/h]The medium duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 4, 5 and 6. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle.

  • Class 4 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 14,001 to 16,000 pounds (6,351 to 7,257 kg).
  • Class 5 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 16,001 to 19,500 pounds (7,258 to 8,845 kg).
  • Class 6 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 19,501 to 26,000 pounds (8,846 to 11,793 kg).
[h=3]Heavy Duty Trucks[/h]The heavy duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 7 and 8. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle. Class 7 and 8 vehicles require that the driver have a Class B CDLto operate the vehicle.

  • Class 7 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 26,001 to 33,000 pounds (11,794 to 14,969 kg).
  • Class 8 – This class of truck has a GVWR of greater than 33,001 pounds (14,969 kg), and includes all tractor trailers.
[h=3]Vehicle Regulations[/h]If a vehicle has a GVWR of over 10,001 pounds and is used for a business, which includes non-profit businesses, then they are subject to federal and state safety regulations. Even though a driver does not need a commercial driving license for Class 1 through 6 vehicles, every vehicle that has a GVWR over 10,001 pounds has to be identified with the name of the company and the US DOT Number. The driver has to operate under the regulations concerning hours of service and medical examinations are required for drivers. Any vehicle over 10,001 pounds is required to stop at state weight and inspection stations.

[h=3]Summary[/h]Truck classification is determined by the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) and this determines the regulations that should be followed. A vehicle over 10,001 pounds means that the company and driver are required to follow regulations for the safe operation of commercial motor vehicles on US highways.
 
mtlogcabin said:
[h=3]Introduction[/h]Commercial motor vehicles that operate on US highways can be classified based on their gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). The classification is divided into eight classes, one through eight, although many people use the more generic terms, light duty, medium duty and heavy duty.[h=3]Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)[/h]The gross vehicle weight rating, more commonly known as the GVWR, is the maximum weight a vehicle is designed to carry including the net weight of the vehicle with accessories, plus the weight of passengers, fuel, and cargo. The GVWR is a safety standard used to prevent overloading. The vehicle manufacturer determines the maximum acceptable weight limits by considering the combined weight of the strongest weight bearing components, i.e. the axles, and the weaker components, for example the(vehicle body, frame, suspension and tires.[h=3]Light Duty Trucks[/h]The light duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 1, 2 and 3. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle.

  • Class 1 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 0 to 6,000 pounds (0 to 2,722kg).
  • Class 2 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 6,001 to 10,000 pounds (2,722 to 4,536 kg).
  • Class 3 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 10,001 to 14,000 pounds (4,536 to 6,350 kg).
[h=3]Medium Duty Trucks[/h]The medium duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 4, 5 and 6. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle.

  • Class 4 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 14,001 to 16,000 pounds (6,351 to 7,257 kg).
  • Class 5 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 16,001 to 19,500 pounds (7,258 to 8,845 kg).
  • Class 6 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 19,501 to 26,000 pounds (8,846 to 11,793 kg).
[h=3]Heavy Duty Trucks[/h]The heavy duty trucks comprise of commercial truck classes 7 and 8. The class is determined by the GVWR of the vehicle. Class 7 and 8 vehicles require that the driver have a Class B CDLto operate the vehicle.

  • Class 7 – This class of truck has a GVWR of 26,001 to 33,000 pounds (11,794 to 14,969 kg).
  • Class 8 – This class of truck has a GVWR of greater than 33,001 pounds (14,969 kg), and includes all tractor trailers.
[h=3]Vehicle Regulations[/h]If a vehicle has a GVWR of over 10,001 pounds and is used for a business, which includes non-profit businesses, then they are subject to federal and state safety regulations. Even though a driver does not need a commercial driving license for Class 1 through 6 vehicles, every vehicle that has a GVWR over 10,001 pounds has to be identified with the name of the company and the US DOT Number. The driver has to operate under the regulations concerning hours of service and medical examinations are required for drivers. Any vehicle over 10,001 pounds is required to stop at state weight and inspection stations.

[h=3]Summary[/h]Truck classification is determined by the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) and this determines the regulations that should be followed. A vehicle over 10,001 pounds means that the company and driver are required to follow regulations for the safe operation of commercial motor vehicles on US highways.
Does that include a Class A motorhomes?
 
steveray said:
If it used for business.....Yes
Here's the actual text from the 2015 IBC for the definition of a Commercial Motor Vehicle:

COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

A motor vehicle used to transport passengers or property where the motor

vehicle:

1. Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds

(4540 kg) or more; or

2. Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including

the driver.
 
One loophole big enough to drive tanker (tender for you west coast folks) through is that emergency vehicles are exempt from most of these requirements including CDL.

It is an intersting change to jump out of a low slung 2100 or 3100 pound mid-engined sports car and into a tall top heavy 58,000 pound tanker to continue on down the road to the fire.
 
cda said:
Also,What is the hazard

What is the fire history

What is the factored fired hours
These should be the driving factors. What is it about vehicles that meet the IBC definition that create a greater fire hazard? Is it because they have larger fuel tanks?
 
RLGA said:
These should be the driving factors. What is it about vehicles that meet the IBC definition that create a greater fire hazard? Is it because they have larger fuel tanks?
Larger fuel tanks and larger shielded combstibles in cargo or passenger area. Possibilities of haz mat.
 
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