Elevator support rails inside shaftwall fireproofing?

[AArchitect]

For a 4-story type IIA building if the support rails for the elevator are within the shaft wall itself (not in the hoistway but in between the layers of the shaft wall) do they need to have fireproofing on them since they are not fully within the hoistway and behind the entire shaft wall assembly?

 

[steveray]

No.....just like the elevator car isn't fire rated or the stairs inside the exit enclosure...

 

[Yikes]

No.....just like the elevator car isn't fire rated or the stairs inside the exit enclosure...

I think what the OP is asking is:
Where the guiderails or the guiderail supports penetrate the gyp board membranes that are part of the fire rating of the elevator enclosure wall, does that penetration compromise the fire-rated shaftwall assembly?

 

[steveray]

Got a picture?

 

[Yikes]

Got a picture?

Does the steel penetration of the gyp board compromise the fire rating on this 2 hour wall?
Afterall, steel does conduct heat very well.
Or does the fire caulk around the steel penetration mean that it is still rated similar to a pipe than penetrates a fire wall?

 

[steveray]

The listed and tested penetration detail (in theory) takes rate of rise into account for the "other side" of the wall....But "2hr caulking at gaps" makes me want to throw up in my mouth....There is no 2hr caulking....just listed and tested details and EJ's...