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Third, emptying the roof runoff into the footer drain? Really? Want to flood your basement even quicker? But, is this a code violation?
As I said above this is my first incident of seeing this in 65 years in this business. In order to get the permit you have to secure Public Works approval, the engineer in Public Works refused to approve without a civil engineer designing the system (for an addition on a level lot), the CE created three sheets that I incorporated into the plans, the C sheets then became a requirement enforced by the field inspector.
Lastly, I have yet to see one single IRC code reference as to why someone would fail this installation. One of the most important parts of this forum for education is not just hearing someone's opinion but having their interpretation backed up by an actual code reference.
Since it's not a code requirement but a Public Works requirement there is no applicable code requirement but a judgment call on the part of the CE, we have few basements around here and if the home did have a basement the CE's design may have been different, but my understanding of the logic is storm runoff is to be minimized with an attempt to absorb all rainwater landing on the property into the property rather than putting it into the storm system where it can pick up oil in the streets and end up in the ocean killing birds and fish. In Napa County they are no longer allowing hard-surface paving to absorb rainwater.
This house, built by my former superintendent, has all crushed pebble driveways and walkways. In a home I built in Santa Clara County there were no gutters, even though gutters are a requirement of the CPC, the engineered design had 4' overhangs with perforated drains in rock-filled trenches directly under the edges of the overhangs. In the case I mentioned on my own property if there were a basement I suspect the engineered design would have had separate systems then tied them together into one perforated system in an engineered leach system on the property, I think it's only as a last resort that water is allowed into the storm drainage system.
I think we need more code references and less "we've always done it that way" or "In my opinion I..." or even worse "Because I said so," Then we sound just like the contractors that we are failing.
I think "code enforcement" is a thing of the past, with everything going to engineered designs the proper term should be "plan-enforcement", the planning, building, fire, Public Works, and other departments approve plans that are then enforced by the field inspector. In the Santa Clara home I mentioned on the first visit the field inspector told me: "I don't have any power on this home, it's too complex, your inspections will be handled by Jennifer XX". He handed me her my card and she has an alphabet soup of certifications including SE.It was about 15 years ago that a CBO wouldn't even allow me to build a dormer on a friend's home based upon an architect's plans without structural engineering, now we are requiring civil engineering on all drainage systems.
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