skipharper
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Is a drain required around the perimeter of fuel dispensers for automobile gas stations such as sheetz, wawa, or any other new gas station?
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fatboy
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Where would you want to drain it to?
Anyway, not to my knowledge. You might have stormwater drains, but those wouldn't go to san. sewer. And I don't think the intent would be to capture fuel products, but that's JMHO.
Anyway, not to my knowledge. You might have stormwater drains, but those wouldn't go to san. sewer. And I don't think the intent would be to capture fuel products, but that's JMHO.
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Skip,
If you are referring to a drain to capture contaminants, that leads to an oil
interceptor, then yes they are required!....See 1003.4.2.2 Garages and service
stations in the 2006 IPC.
"Where automobiles are serviced, greased, repaired or washed or where gasoline is
dispensed, oil separators shall have a minimum capacity of 6 cubic feet (0.168 m 3) for
the first 100 square feet (9.3 m2) of area to be drained, plus 1 cubic foot (0.28 m3)
for each additional 100 square feet (9.3 m2) of area to be drained into the separator.
Parking garages in which servicing, repairing or washing is not conducted, and in which
gasoline is not dispensed, shall not require a separator......Areas of commercial garages
utilized only for storage of automobiles are not required to be drained through a
separator."
FWIW, in this AHJ, we have had the "new" gasoline stations designed so as to
capture the various contaminants that leak & spill from vehicles, ...from around
the fueling canopy areas.
Our Fire Dept. has had to respond to gasoline spills in the fueling island areas
before, because someone actually drove off with the fuel nozzle still in their
tank fill-opening.....Go figure!
Also, FWIW, since this question focuses on "drains", ...it probably should be
moved to the Commercial Plumbing thread.
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Skip,
If you are referring to a drain to capture contaminants, that leads to an oil
interceptor, then yes they are required!....See 1003.4.2.2 Garages and service
stations in the 2006 IPC.
"Where automobiles are serviced, greased, repaired or washed or where gasoline is
dispensed, oil separators shall have a minimum capacity of 6 cubic feet (0.168 m 3) for
the first 100 square feet (9.3 m2) of area to be drained, plus 1 cubic foot (0.28 m3)
for each additional 100 square feet (9.3 m2) of area to be drained into the separator.
Parking garages in which servicing, repairing or washing is not conducted, and in which
gasoline is not dispensed, shall not require a separator......Areas of commercial garages
utilized only for storage of automobiles are not required to be drained through a
separator."
FWIW, in this AHJ, we have had the "new" gasoline stations designed so as to
capture the various contaminants that leak & spill from vehicles, ...from around
the fueling canopy areas.
Our Fire Dept. has had to respond to gasoline spills in the fueling island areas
before, because someone actually drove off with the fuel nozzle still in their
tank fill-opening.....Go figure!
Also, FWIW, since this question focuses on "drains", ...it probably should be
moved to the Commercial Plumbing thread.
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skipharper
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If the perimeter drain was required you would then go to the plumbing code, however, my question is: Is a drain required around the perimeter of fuel dispensers for automobile gas stations such as sheetz, wawa, or any other new gas station?
north star
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Skip,
I am amending my previous posting to say "No! They are not required!" However,
means to capture spills / contaminants should be designed in to the "new" facility.
We have had at least one or two "new" convenience store/gas station type facilities
that sloped their parking areas to drain towards an oil interceptor.....Designing in
"trench drains" around the fueling areas is one design method, not the only design
method.
Sorry for the erroneous reply!.......Let the stoning begin...ops
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Skip,
I am amending my previous posting to say "No! They are not required!" However,
means to capture spills / contaminants should be designed in to the "new" facility.
We have had at least one or two "new" convenience store/gas station type facilities
that sloped their parking areas to drain towards an oil interceptor.....Designing in
"trench drains" around the fueling areas is one design method, not the only design
method.
Sorry for the erroneous reply!.......Let the stoning begin...
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skipharper
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No problem North Star! I appreciate the replies. We are a small department and the great thing about this board is we have many minds and loads of knowledge.