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Hi All--
This is my first real post in the new forum (vs. the ICC forums)...a big thanks to whomever is running this, because the old forums & this new one are really helpful! I apologize for being a 'lurker'--I just don't feel like I know enough to contribute much...
I'm throwing this out to you all in the off chance that someone has an interpretation from the ICC or a section of commentary concerning IBC 2006 Section 1010.8. Specifically, whether or not a handrail is required on a ramp less than 6" in height?
Here's the story...we've designed a theater that has some very minimal ramps & aisles. I'm not concerned about the aisles (there are no issues there...), but on the ramps, both of which are less than 6" in height, our building official is requiring a handrail. I've asked him to point out the text in the IBC 2006 that requires a handrail, and his response is that if a ramp is greater than 6", two are required and therefore, if it's less than 6", it must need one. I think that this is a bit of a stretch--in my mind, if one was required, it would have been stated.
I just don't see anything in either the code or the commentary (or ANSI A117.1, for that matter) about a handrail being required for a ramp less than 6". He won't accept anything less than an interpretation from the ICC or something written in a code or commentary. I don't have a copy of 2009 commentary--does anyone know if it's addressed? I'm suspicious that he's asking for something written from the ICC because he knows full well that we can't wait for that process... Normally, I might not fight as hard, but adding handrails and extensions on one side of these ramps either make them very obtrusive to natural circulation patterns or will affect the sound system for the theater (in front of a sub-woofer)...
I was surprised that he's holding such a hard line on this item--in the past, we've had a great relationship with this building department and they've been very reasonable to work with...
By all means, if you think I'm off base, call me on it.
Thanks in advance for any ideas you might have.
This is my first real post in the new forum (vs. the ICC forums)...a big thanks to whomever is running this, because the old forums & this new one are really helpful! I apologize for being a 'lurker'--I just don't feel like I know enough to contribute much...
I'm throwing this out to you all in the off chance that someone has an interpretation from the ICC or a section of commentary concerning IBC 2006 Section 1010.8. Specifically, whether or not a handrail is required on a ramp less than 6" in height?
Here's the story...we've designed a theater that has some very minimal ramps & aisles. I'm not concerned about the aisles (there are no issues there...), but on the ramps, both of which are less than 6" in height, our building official is requiring a handrail. I've asked him to point out the text in the IBC 2006 that requires a handrail, and his response is that if a ramp is greater than 6", two are required and therefore, if it's less than 6", it must need one. I think that this is a bit of a stretch--in my mind, if one was required, it would have been stated.
I just don't see anything in either the code or the commentary (or ANSI A117.1, for that matter) about a handrail being required for a ramp less than 6". He won't accept anything less than an interpretation from the ICC or something written in a code or commentary. I don't have a copy of 2009 commentary--does anyone know if it's addressed? I'm suspicious that he's asking for something written from the ICC because he knows full well that we can't wait for that process... Normally, I might not fight as hard, but adding handrails and extensions on one side of these ramps either make them very obtrusive to natural circulation patterns or will affect the sound system for the theater (in front of a sub-woofer)...
I was surprised that he's holding such a hard line on this item--in the past, we've had a great relationship with this building department and they've been very reasonable to work with...
By all means, if you think I'm off base, call me on it.

Thanks in advance for any ideas you might have.