Happy 4th of July Need education on 1.4G Consumer Fireworks !@8^$POW!!!

[Architect1281]

new enforcement issue in M- Mercantile for now legal (never been an issue always been illegal)

consumer 1.4G fireworks.

As I look to Table 307.1(1) I see Consumer fireworks (Class C, Common) 125 pounds and the footnote on how to measure and how to increase I get that.

I have been told by definition tha 1.4G are not exploaives so I don't read the explosives section of 307.1(1) which to me looks to say the same thing.

Now the IBC sends us to the IFC - Speed bump for RI as the IFC referenced is redirected to the RI FIRE CODE which is NFPA 1 and 101 based which places me in NFPA 1 ch 60 or ch 65 .

The vendors keep touting NFPA 1124 which in my codes I can't get to and when the 1 IBC reference to that standard is listed it takes me to [F] 415.3.1 Group H occupancy minimum which list explosives that I have been told class 1.4G are not?

How do you handle this

 

[FM William Burns]

We use NFPA 1, 2006 or 09 (if applicable now in R.I.) [65.11 and 1124, 2006 Chapter 7 as referenced]

 

[Architect1281]

Yeah that is there only hope cause I can't see how to get by the 125 or 250 pound limit that the vendors insist is the correct answer

the only hope is 1124 ch 7 but that INHO limits them to size and quantity also. we are actually meeting (Fire n Building)

to put ut a consistent, uniform, response to loacal enforcement issues.

We are still on NFPA 2003 series but I have and read all.

Time for Idol see you guys later. Thanks FMB

 

[FM William Burns]

I'm multi-tasking...lol. I'll share this also.....

Up until this year we used the old BOCA 1993 FP Code section that we kept in our ordinances that prohibited "all" sales. I was on Jerry from TNT and others hit list and argued against them for many years at the NFPA regional code development meetings. I also testified in Vegas for the re-draft of 1124 when NFPA was going to throw out Chapter 7. I have some dramatic video of Battelle testing that really drove it home. The "poly-ticks" are now looking at consumer FW as a way to increase state revenues and that's fine for dedicated (CFRSF) but grouping all the big box retail stores like Wally World and others is bad as I testified to. My arguments of subjecting grandma who went in to buy milk and is now exposed to potentials of not reaching an exit (even in sprinkled buildings) went on deaf ears but I received many thanks from it from NFPA and NFSA people for standing up to all the bull on the manufactures testing at SW Lab. We are working on some amendments here in our state to address segregated areas or similar set-ups like ammunition where the consumer has to pick what they want on display and get it out of the store from the segregated area. I was successful on the fuse protection since they couldn't argue that some punk kid with a bic could just pierce the plastic film and light off a Mega package.

I really don't care is someone wants to buy them and risk injury to themselves or their children at home (we'll still try to educate) but exposing unknowing consumers to added risk in retail stores like exampled above is not safe...... based on the real effects (even in sprinkled buildings) I have on video.

Guess Pack's freedom fight is getting to me after all

 

[Architect1281]

But Bill are you saying the SIGN that says "Do not ignite within 300 Feet " could be ignored?

All the same questions here, Like the ENDcap Pallette at the INGRESS EGRESS at BIG BOX WORLD

 

[Builder Bob]

Not that big of a deal - South carolina has been selling fireworks for years..... (It is our evil plan to get rid of pesty northurners...........Darwinism works -- As soon as we figure out how to ensure that rednecks don't have any geographical boundaries, I am sure this plan will work!)

 

[FM William Burns]

BTW....since Pia was :censored dumped I don't get into the show anymore but do like James the Rocker :-D