High Piled Combustible Storage - high hazard commodity

[Codegeek]

I have a repair garage which will be utilizing a portion of their building for tire storage. The building itself is approximately 7,000 square feet with the tire storage area being approximately 1,000 square feet.

I have a question on Table 2306.2 (Table 3206.2 in the 2012 IFC) as to what defines "option 1" and "option 2" in terms of nonpublic accessible. The building itself is not required to be sprinklered based on the overall square footage. What I’m trying to determine is if the tire storage is required to be sprinklered. My thoughts are no, but I’m not sure what the two options mean so I don’t want to give an incorrect answer.

Thanks for any insight!

 

[cda]

sorry do not have 2012, trying to catch up to 2009

but in 2009

the difference is one you sprinkle one and the other you put smoke detection through out the high piled storage area.

which the smoke detecion in a dirty area can cause trouble

can they keep the tires six feet or below??? and maybe spread them out a little more????

just look at all the other requirements if you go option 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if they are hand jacking these tires, you might ask them if they can left them much higher than six feet????

 

[Codegeek]

The 2009 isn't much different, just located in a different chapter.

Yes, I'm trying to encourage the 6 foot limit, but just in case, I wanted to see if someone could explain the differences between the two options as far as defining them. Thanks the your response.

 

[cda]

so did I answer your question????

 

[Codegeek]

Yes and no. Yes, by noting the differences as far as requirements, but I was hoping for a definition of what Option 1 is as well as Option 2, or does that definition exist?

 

[permitguy]

Similar to going separated vs. non-separated, it is a choice for the owner to make with input from the design professional. Either option could be chosen as long as all the requirements that go with that option are satisfied. Nothing tells you that your building is an "option 1" or an "option 2" building.

 

[Codegeek]

So, if they keep the storage under 6 feet for the tires, then no sprinkler, correct?

If the storage exceeds 6 feet, then a sprinkler would be required if the area exceeds 2500 square feet, correct?

If the storage exceeds 6 feet and is less than 2500 square feet, they can either sprinkler or provide detection, correct?

 

[permitguy]

Correct - in addition to detection, they'd also need all of the other things from the table if indicated by the referenced sections.

In my opinion, the owner is much better off going with sprinklers for maximum flexibility. We find several a year that are in violation, usually in late fall as people are worried about their tires in the soon-to-fall snow and the tire shop is stocked to the rafters trying to keep up.

 

[Codegeek]

Perfect! Thanks permitguy!

 

[cda]

yes and no

if you exceed six feet and 500 sq ft, unless it got changed in the 12, than you need sprinklers or option 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!