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I am new to the forum have questions about new construction and electrical work installed into code violating framing.

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RobertG

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Would an electrician bear any responsibility for installing new wiring into framing that is clearly and (even dangerously) not to code? The framing must be torn out and re-done therefore the wiring will have to be pulled out and re-done. The wiring was good but installed into extremely bad framing. Is an electrician supposed to be aware of framing code since their work becomes part of it?
 
RobertG said:
Would an electrician bear any responsibility for installing new wiring into framing that is clearly and (even dangerously) not to code?
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No, it is not their expertise. I had this happen a few times where the GC was supposed to frame with metal but framed with wood in a construction type that does not allow combustible wood framing, and both times, the wiring had to be removed and replaced at the expense of the GC who did not follow the approved plans.
 
If the gc told the electrician the framing was complete and the wiring could start … it’s on the gc. If the homeowner did the framing and the electrician showed up when requested … on the homeowner.
 
e hilton said:
If the gc told the electrician the framing was complete and the wiring could start … it’s on the gc.
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For projects where AIA Documents are being used, there are two provisions that address this.

1. AIA Document A201 (General Conditions of the Contract for Construction) 3.3.3 states, “The Contractor shall be responsible for inspection of portions of Work already performed to determine that such portions are in proper condition to receive subsequent Work.”
2. AIA Document A401 (Standard Form of Agreement Between Contractor and Subcontractor) Article 2 contains the flow-down language that also puts a similar responsibility on the subcontractor to inspect the work in place to make sure it is ready to receive subsequent work.

Even if AIA documents are not used, the general contractor has contracted with the owner to do the work correctly so ultimately it’s the general contractor’s responsibility.
 
I agree with e hilton. More bluntly, if you hired the framing contractor (or did it yourself) and you hired the electrical contractor, it's all on you. That would apply if you're the owner or general contractor.
 
jar546 said:
No response from the original poster. Basically another homeowner not getting told what they wanted to hear. One and done.
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You certainly may be right, but it might also be they have not had an opportunity to return to the forum to read responses. Its only been 18hrs since the initial post, and it is the weekend!
 
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