jar546
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I would love to know where this was from. Enjoy!
Where is ceiling joist blocking in the code, the Tiger Code?What about solid blocking between the joists?
The 5:1 ratio means 2x10 or greater, those don't look like 2x10x to me.
Well no, it means greater than 2"x10". Or the way I read it which is "all ceiling joist and rafters". Nobody, and I mean nobody, has challenged that correction. I seldom have to write the correction.The 5:1 ratio means 2x10 or greater, those don't look like 2x10x to me.
Having been in the building business for 65 years now I have never blocked a ceiling joist, if any inspector tried pulling his own code on me I'd have his scalp. I also try to avoid floor joists over 2x10 so I don't have to field block them, blocks cause squeaks, I do solid block floor joists over all plates and do not use a rim joist unless it's on a cantilever.Well no, it means greater than 2"x10". Or the way I read it which is "all ceiling joist and rafters". Nobody, and I mean nobody, has challenged that correction. I seldom have to write the correction.
Having been in the building business for 65 years now I have never blocked a ceiling joist, if any inspector tried pulling his own code on me I'd have his scalp. I also try to avoid floor joists over 2x10 so I don't have to field block them, blocks cause squeaks, I do solid block floor joists over all plates and do not use a rim joist unless it's on a cantilever.
Steve said:I know most of your stuff is engineered, so it might be approvable, but just curious. I guess ICE could use this section and call it an "attic floor joist"..
Steve:
I do solid block at the ends and on all bearing, the reason I install no rims is I come from a time when the UBC required nominal 4" bearing, you could do this with a 2x6 mudsill and a rim but as a young carpenter I was working for a cheap builder who sent 2x4 redwood mudsills, I used a rim and the inspector made me crawl under the house and install solid blocks behind the rim, those couple of days laying on my back pounding blocks in made an indelible impression on me.
Steve:I was just wondering as my current home was built with the first floor studs down to the "sole" plate along side the floor joists...Seems like a great connection, that and the 1" board sheathing, but was wondering if there was more reasoning behind it or if they just hadn't realized how much easier it was to build the walls on the deck and stand em up...It is also 2x4 plates so maybe it was a UBC builder..
Bad idea regarding fire propagation. San Francisco proper is framed this way almost exclusively. Back then, they laid out their studs on horses, then gang cut notches at the floor lines for an inset 1x6 ledger, then full length redwood (25') joists sat on that. All joists bridge span blocking was done with cross blocks. So there was a clear path all the way from the garage floor to the attic.I was just wondering as my current home was built with the first floor studs down to the "sole" plate along side the floor joists...Seems like a great connection, that and the 1" board sheathing, but was wondering if there was more reasoning behind it or if they just hadn't realized how much easier it was to build the walls on the deck and stand em up...It is also 2x4 plates so maybe it was a UBC builder..
Brent:That's kinda interesting.
Brent