Incomplete Tenant Finish Plans: A Brief Vent

[Papio Bldg Dept]

If rereviewing plans is a burden, you might want to consider another line of work.Just saying.

No, I don't find re-reviews to be a burden. I actually enjoy my line of work, and I would rather reject and re-review plans than let something go simply for the sake of issuing a permit.

 

[brudgers]

It is not a matter of letting things go.

It is a matter of can you communicate what needs to be done with a red sharpie and then issue the permit based on the approved plans.

For example, issue the permit and hold the rebar inspection until energy calculations are received.

To put it another way, practically speaking if they can't get their first inspection, they don't really have a permit but they can mobilize - and that's what they really want.

These things can happen in parallel and you will typically get better information when the motivation is not to vomit up something in order to get the permit.

 

[Papio Bldg Dept]

It is not a matter of letting things go.It is a matter of can you communicate what needs to be done with a red sharpie and then issue the permit based on the approved plans.

For example, issue the permit and hold the rebar inspection until energy calculations are received.

To put it another way, practically speaking if they can't get their first inspection, they don't really have a permit but they can mobilize - and that's what they really want.

These things can happen in parallel and you will typically get better information when the motivation is not to vomit up something in order to get the permit.

I agree completely. I wish our permitting software allowed us to track inspections prior to the full issuance of a permit. However, we make an extended effort to manually track inspections when we issue limited construction permits (i.e., footings/foundations, framing, and underground utilities) while comments are being addressed (we do not charge extra fees for this either). We want them to mobilize too. We also want to know that they are willing to communicate with us. All too often the 'forgiveness versus permission' and the 'I didn't know I couldn't do that' mentality is applied.

We do not redline drawings, especially not RDP work. We will make copies of submittals and make redlines to help clarify compliance issues as a reference to a comment, but the applicant or RDP needs to make their own redlines, attach addendums (8.5X11), or resubmit full sheets/sets as they deem necessary to address the comment.

You are absolutely right that these things can happen in parrallell, and Code Enforcement should not be a hinderance to construction. Construction still needs to be compliant, and having a good working relationship, and communicating, with those involved keeps projects on schedule.

I will consider what you have said, and see if there is not another way we could issue permits, without all comments being addressed. Maybe even look at whether all comments need to be made. Thanks for all of your input brudgers. I do consider it quite helpful.