Is a Huddle Room a Conference Room?

[Sifu]

Conference room by another name. Use dictates occ. load, not classification. We consider them as conference rooms, 15-net.

 

[mtlogcabin]

The exception to section 1004.1.2 you reference above has been deleted from the CT Building code.

Well you are still limited in Occupant Load by the existing stairs no matter what you are trying to label the various rooms or uses. Either call the entire use a "B" or tell them to find a new building.

 

[Tim Mailloux]

Well you are still limited in Occupant Load by the existing stairs no matter what you are trying to label the various rooms or uses. Either call the entire use a "B" or tell them to find a new building.

The entire use group is B, all of these huddle rooms and even the larger conference rooms are all part of the B use group because they are smaller than 750 SF. However table 1004.1.2 has nothing to do with Use group. It's how the spaces are used or the function of the space. So even though these conference rooms are part of the B use group, they function assembly tables and chairs at 1 person per 15 SF.

 

[cda]

in CT local building officials do not have this authority. A formal code medication request has to be made to the Office of the state building official and State Fire Marshal. I have yet to be granted one for an occupancy reduction as it relates to egress.

If it is labeled as an office, not sure how an ahj can say it is not an office ?

 

[Tim Mailloux]

If it is labeled as an office, not sure how an ahj can say it is not an office ?

I don't see how I can justify calling it an office when the plan will show a small conference room table and 6 chairs around it.

 

[cda]

Unless the ahj requires a furniture layout,

Once again how can they dispute it

My big boss has a table in his office with five chairs and it is still an office.


Your call, I do not see a problem with it, plus if you go to 100 factor, you arrive in the same place.

 

[SCBO1]

Could you use educational-class rooms 1004.1.2, they have concentrated chairs and tables @ 20 net? When the bell sounds the kids all run to another part of the building just as you counter argument states?

What happens when they go out of business and the rooms become office space?

 

[Tim Mailloux]

Unless the ahj requires a furniture layout,

Once again how can they dispute it

My big boss has a table in his office with five chairs and it is still an office.


Your call, I do not see a problem with it, plus if you go to 100 factor, you arrive in the same place.

Typically AHJ's require furniture to be shown on egress/code plans to accurately determine travel distance and common path of travel.

 

[steveray]

I don't see how I can justify calling it an office when the plan will show a small conference room table and 6 chairs around it.

Maybe it shows a huddle table and not a conference table.....The point is, a room with 6 people does not make a "conference room"...I will check egress for the room to see that 15 net does not push the room over 50 (2 exits and door swing)...But I would look at rooms that small as 100 gross office and be done with it. If the CEO has a table for 4 in the corner of his office, would you count his entire office at 15 net? If he has 2 chairs on the "customer" side of his desk? What if he uses a table as a desk? At some point it gets really silly and I guess you and the AHJ will have to work that out...

 

[SCBO1]

Why 15? Could you use 20 as your calculator for Educational, class room? Why assembly? Are you using 5 net for standing room in this cuddle room for the instructor.

We got a kitchen at work with an OL of 2, then they stuck a table and six chairs in there increasing the OL, the other day they they crackpots with chili in their and the load was 10. I believe the buildings overall OL handles this influx of people, the council chamber ended up with the load which was posted at 49 and the load in the building was <30.

Are we making this to complicated or should I find something to do less confusing?

Comrades, I must be doing my calculations all wrong?

 

[cda]

Why 15? Could you use 20 as your calculator for Educational, class room? Why assembly? Are you using 5 net for standing room in this cuddle room for the instructor.

We got a kitchen at work with an OL of 2, then they stuck a table and six chairs in there increasing the OL, the other day they they crackpots with chili in their and the load was 10. I believe the buildings overall OL handles this influx of people, the council chamber ended up with the load which was posted at 49 and the load in the building was <30.

Are we making this to complicated or should I find something to do less confusing?

Comrades, I must be doing my calculations all wrong?

Step away from the calculator.