Licensed Architect vs. Homeowner's "own" plans

[ADAguy]

As they say, "Them times they are a changing".

 

[Phil]

Mark,
I assumed "conventional framing" referred to CBC section 2308 - Conventional Light-Framed Construction.

 

[Mark K]

Phil

I agree that originally "conventional framing" referred to section 2308. The problem is that the current content of section 2308 is different from what it was when the statute was passed. Originally conventional framing was a set of provisions that could be complied with without the need to do any calculations.

The current provisions allow considerably more complex buildings than the original. Was this the intent of the legislature or maybe the Legislature did not do a very good job of drafting the original legislation.

 

[conarb]

The current provisions allow considerably more complex buildings than the original. Was this the intent of the legislature or maybe the Legislature did not do a very good job of drafting the original legislation.

Mark:

Since when did any legislator have anything to do with code intent or drafting?

 

[cda]

Mark:

Since when did any legislator have anything to do with code intent or drafting?

They do it all the time

Did a bad home smoke alarm legislation in Texas

 

[conarb]

They do it all the time

Did a bad home smoke alarm legislation in Texas

Did they actually put it in the codes? In California when the legislature does things like the recent water efficiency regulations they don't put them into the codes (which are in Title 24 of the Code of Regulations) but they put them into the Civil Code. Maybe the ICC copyright of the codes prevents alteration? I don't know the answer to that.

 

[cda]

No not in codes

Rameses Code 1292 BC edition


So it shall be written

So it shall be done

 

[mark handler]

No not in codes

But it is. In CA

California Code of Regulations (CCR), Title 24, also known as the California Building Standards Code, is a compilation of three (3) types of building criteria from three (3) different origins:

• Building standards that have been adopted by state agencies without change from building standards contained in national model codes;
• Building standards that have been adopted and adapted from the national model code standards to meet California conditions; and
• Building standards, authorized and modified by the California legislature, that constitute extensive additions not covered by the model codes that have been adopted to address particular California concerns

Building Officials Shall comply with All three, not just the so called CA Building Code

 

[cda]

Forgot about Moon land, should have known

 

[mark handler]

Forgot about Moon land, should have known

I will bet that is the case in most states; the code can be modified by the State legislatures

 

[Paul Sweet]

Since the OP mentioned Virginia, I'll chime in again.

Virginia adopts the International Codes with state modifications. Chapter 1 (Administration) is completely rewritten to comply with Virginia laws and administrative procedures. A technical team under the Board of Housing and Community Development amends the technical requirements of the code. Only a few of the amendments, mostly dealing with fire safety in existing dormitories & institutions, are driven by legislation. It is a lengthy process with several public hearings. At one time it took about 18 months, but is now around 30 months, so Virginia probably won't adopt the 2015 I codes until early 2018.

 

[mark handler]

At one time it took about 18 months, but is now around 30 months, so Virginia probably won't adopt the 2015 I codes until early 2018.

It took CA till 2017 to adopt the 2015 code

 

[steveray]

We went to 2012 in 10/2016.....

 

[Mr. Inspector]

In PA you need 3 sets of code books. Mostly 2009 I codes with some sections from 2015 and 2006. In other words a mess.