LPG Tank and Meters.....Violations?

[Alias]

I found this when I went to look at the electrical upgrade at the same address. LPG tank with 2 meters. No permits for installation of heaters, water heaters, or ? The gas line connection is located directly against a stuccoed masonry chimney, above the chimney clean out, with a large silver tank on the other side. No clearances essentially. Last picture is where the gas line enters building through (I assume) a crawl hole.Sue

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[David Henderson]

15 gal or less can be next to building, larger requires 10ft. to valve if tank is parallel, 10ft. to tank if perpendicular. can't tell much from other pics.

 

[fireguy]

I did not think you were allowed to connect two flex gas lines together. Picture # 2

 

[Mac]

CSST not bonded?

 

[steveray]

Check the CSST manuf. install instructions...it looks like shabby work, no bonding, and they may have stripped back the yellow covering too far...it should be allowed to be outside, but there could be be a "subject to physical damage" issue......

 

[Alias]

15 gal or less can be next to building, larger requires 10ft. to valve if tank is parallel, 10ft. to tank if perpendicular. can't tell much from other pics.

FM allowed original tank set-up due to location. It will now be moved around the corner, still too close to the building, and with bollards. Commercial property with parking for resident upstairs and businesses downstairs. FM says it is best he can do.

 

[Alias]

I did not think you were allowed to connect two flex gas lines together. Picture # 2

Thanks, I didn't think so either, especially when it is so close to concrete (stucco).

 

[Alias]

Check the CSST manuf. install instructions...it looks like shabby work, no bonding, and they may have stripped back the yellow covering too far...it should be allowed to be outside, but there could be be a "subject to physical damage" issue......

Not a yellow covering, it's white. I have never seen anything like it before, hence the post. There is also no shut-off valve by the meter. Additionally, there is no permit for the tank or heaters, appliances, etc. Local contractor, been here since time began, doesn't need to follow the rules, etc. etc. etc., did the install.

 

[Alias]

CSST not bonded?

Couldn't find anything so, probably not. Very tight back there and hard to see behind the propane tank or the oil tank.

 

[Gregg Harris]

Thanks, I didn't think so either, especially when it is so close to concrete (stucco).

IRC G2422.1.2.1 and IFGC 411.3.1 for listed and labeled appliance connectors can not be joined together, CSST on the other hand can be joined with couplings to extend the length.

Where the protective covering was cut back to far it should have been wrapped with self adhesive silicone tape.

CSST when run exposed on the exterior of the building should be run in conduit to protect from damage.

If you return to the job the CSST will have a MFG label on it.