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More ADA Insanity - now in Canada

conarb

conarb

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From the Economist:

New building rules will help old folks—who now risk being eaten by bearsIt seems only a matter of time before someone steps forward. Much publicity has been given to the ban, which plays to Vancouver’s offbeat reputation. “What are they smoking out there?” asks Gary Sharp of the CHBA. If further bans do go ahead, those living near the woods would be wise to invest in some sturdy locks before installing doorhandles.

These complaints pale in comparison to a more sinister worry. True, elderly and disabled people find it easier to operate doors with handles. But so do bears. In British Columbia, bears have been known to scavenge for food inside cars—whose doors have handles, knob advocates point out. Pitkin County, Colorado, in the United States, has banned door levers on buildings for this very reason. One newspaper columnist in the pro-knob camp has noted that the velociraptors in “Jurassic Park” were able to open doors by their handles.¹
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In the last house I built the owner has two servils, he now hast 1x4s tied under every door handle in the home, it took the cats about a month to figure out how to open the doors.

¹ http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21600988-new-building-rules-will-help-old-folkswho-now-risk-being-eaten-bears-knobless-oblige
 
Most bears will not use the door lever, they will rip the door open or just tear away a wall section on a wood framed house.

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There are "knob advocates" out there ?..........Who knew ? :o

I wonder if our Door Guru [ **LGreene** ] knows about this.



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A Chester, Ca. convenience store had a problem with bears rummaging the trash bin. The bin was replaced with a bear proof model. The bears tore the side of the building off. They didn't just make a hole to get in, they removed fifteen feet of wall.
 
mark handler said:
Oh ya, lets build our house in a wildlife habitat area... i wonder why there are more attacks.....
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Bear ranges are expanding into urban and suburban areas as their populations increase. Twenty years ago in our area bear sightings were very rare, now they are becomming common--they got my late sweet corn a few years back just as it was ready for harvest.

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlife/bear/blackbearmanagementplan.pdf
 
mtlogcabin said:
Most bears will not use the door lever, they will rip the door open or just tear away a wall section on a wood framed house.
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We've had them open car doors, so it stands to reason they could figure out a lever.
 
Frank said:
Bear ranges are expanding into urban and suburban areas as their populations increase. Twenty years ago in our area bear sightings were very rare, now they are becomming common--they got my late sweet corn a few years back just as it was ready for harvest. http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/wildlife/bear/blackbearmanagementplan.pdf
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Bears are pretty smart animals. They move into urban areas where they can't be hunted, but food is plentiful.
 
tmurray said:
We've had them open car doors, so it stands to reason they could figure out a lever.
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Agree, They will figure out a way to get what they are after. They just don't always take the easy way

and that is the point I was making. It is ridiculous and foolish if you think a lever handle will make it any easier for a bear to get into a home any more than locking it will deter one.

One newspaper columnist in the pro-knob camp has noted that the velociraptors in “Jurassic Park” were able to open doors by their handles.
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Really, a scripted fictional movie is to be used as a factual example to argue against or for something. Today's mind set and logic from the college educated is seriously lacking.
 
I called Ashely Norton about my African Wildcat problem, asking if I could buy parts to modify their locksets to privacies. They said no that I had to buy all new locksets. I told them about the bear problems in British Columbia and Colorado, they say that they are well aware the problem, they say that what builders are doing is installing the levers and after they leave taking them off and installing knobs. I told him that they better get their engineers working on it, it's not just the inspectors, these disability activists are becoming really obnoxious, suing everyone.
 
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