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New CBO exams

Discussion in 'Certifications' started by Kao Chen, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Kao Chen

    Kao Chen Member

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    How many of you have decided that the best path to a CBO certification has been to become an ICC Combination Inspector or a Combination Plans Examiner before you take the Legal/Management Module? Guess what? All your hard work will not count towards your CBO certification (see the new exam bulletin). From what I read you will now be required to take 3 exams: Management Module, Legal Module and Building Codes & Standard Module. Your Combination certifications will no longer count.

    I can see the logic in splitting up the Legal & Management into 2 exams but to no longer count your Combination certification as equal to the new technology exam is beyond logic. To top it all off, the new CBO exams are based only on the 2015 codes which my jurisdiction will never adopt (6 year cycle currently on the 2012 codes). If you have not all ready started the 'old' process (taken the old legal/management or technology module) before 1/1/2015 then you have to go through the new process. I'm feeling screwed!

    I hope that I'm misunderstanding this new approach.
     
  2. mjesse

    mjesse Registered User

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    Nope, you've got it.

    The goal of the ICC was to place more "value" on the CBO cert.

    Making it more "challenging" to achieve, places the CBO holder in higher esteem with his colleagues ;)
     
  3. JCraver

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    It was "challenging" enough, just having to carry all 11 books into the test center...
     
  4. Chad Pasquini

    Chad Pasquini Registered User

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    I agree JCraver, then the torture of them checking everyone one to make sure they were on the list:)
     
  5. fatboy

    fatboy Administrator

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    And again at the end, make sure you didn't add any notes.............
     
  6. steveray

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    Great....Guess I got screwed too then.....
     
  7. fatboy

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    Thank goodness I went through it with the legacy codes, just needed the four trades, and the legal management test..........
     
  8. Kao Chen

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    It would have been nice to have been treated to a movie and dinner before I got screwed too! I'm hoping that enough of us can complain to ICC to change this stupid rule. I've all ready contacted the certification team to lodge a protest!
     
  9. mjesse

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    http://media.iccsafe.org/news/eNews/2014v11n16/faq.pdf

    Excerpt:

    Why



    o In efforts to support coordination between the Fire Services and Building groups within

    ICC, the former Board for International Professional Standards directed the CBO and Fire

    Services Exam Development Committees to look for ways to work together in

    developing content that could be used by individuals seeking either a CBO or CFM. The

    two committees met in July to create new shared modules, as well as fire‐ and building‐

    specific technical modules.



    o Expansion of the modules required for the CBO and CFM also strengthens both

    credentials, raising the bar of competency required to attain and maintain these

    designations.
     
  10. ICE

    ICE Moderator

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    That might make sense to someone who's smarter than me.
     
  11. Min&Max

    Min&Max Silver Member

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    When the three code groups became one they threw out one of my certifications. At the time I only needed one more certification and I would have had the CBO. I was a bit p.o'd and will not ever take another certification test.
     
  12. Sifu

    Sifu Gold Member

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    Congratulations ICC, you just made me feel incompetent! Was that the intent?
     
  13. bubbah123

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    I am in line to become the BO after 10 years in the Housing Department. I have my B-1, working on my B-2. My question, what is the best, sure fire way, to study for the 'tech module and legal' (01 & 02). I know the path has changed if I have not already started for 2015. The advice I am looking for......what's the best strategy before taking the CBO exam? Anyone have any useful 'tools'?
     
  14. fatboy

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    Well, first off, welcome bubbah123!

    Same thing I always say.........indexes and table of contents are your very close friends, visit them often. The "codes" are all assembled pretty much the same, the other non-code books are more of a challenge, one of them didn't have an index back in the day. So, I would say get to know those better..........and good luck! Keep us posted!
     
  15. mjesse

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    I have helped out several people with exams and found the most useful advice (and personal experience) is to worry less about remembering specific code requirements and much more about learning the locations of items in the books. Using critical thinking and logic about where the answer might be in the book is invaluable. HOWEVER, that advice might not serve for the CBO exam. For that one I don't think you can rely on having time to look stuff up in the 6 or 7 books they use for reference. I sure didn't have time, I pretty much had to know the answers for most of the questions because there wasn't much time.
     
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    Disclaimer: I only had to take the legal module but I imagine the technical is the same with all the books.
     
  19. bubbah123

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    Thanks for the advice fellas......Every bit helps. So I guess the best 'avenue' to obtaining the CBO is to just know the material and be very speedy - its really just a race against the clock. It is just a crazy amount of reference material to come into the exam with. Even back in engineering school, they WANTED you to pass the exams. I feel the ICC puts up obstacles to make it 'difficult' to pass. They really can make the tests VERY difficult by burying the answers in the code book or make them relevant to general code issue's we deal with daily. This 'new path vs old path' to the CBO really has me erked. Our jurisdiction just adopted the 2012 code (Nov 1st 2014). All my references are for 2012, Fire , Mechanical, IRC, IBC.....etc. We may NEVER adopt the 2015 code. So I called the ICC and asked them about starting on the Legal and Tech Module 'path' since all the codes we use are 2012 now. We just spent thousands on the BRAND NEW (2012) code books for our department. ICC said that it is NOT an option. So they want me to spend more $$$$ on 9 to 11, 2015 code books I may NEVER use after the test. So.....is this just a grab at selling more code books by the ICC?

    My question to all......anyone have any pull with the ICC, to ask them, to allow jurisdictions to take exams pertinent to their states and not pertinent to the ICC's guidelines? Our job is to enforce our adopted code.
     
  20. bubbah123

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    Anyone have the CBO study guide pdf.?
     

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