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Overrulled by my Department Head (Zoning Administrator)

fatboy said:
Oh brudgers, do you really think that someone that is balking about building new compliant stairs went through the time and expense of retaining an architect?
Well I thought I read that the rest of the building had undergone extensive renovations.

Surely there was an architect involved in all that.

I mean what sort of building department would have allowed all those accessibility upgrades with their potential to degrade the egress of an assembly occupancy without an architect of record?
 
I mean what sort of building department would have allowed all those accessibility upgrades with their potential to degrade the egress of an assembly occupancy without an architect of record?
One where the state tells the building departments they cannot enforce liscensing laws:banghd
 
brudgers said:
Well I thought I read that the rest of the building had undergone extensive renovations.Surely there was an architect involved in all that.

I mean what sort of building department would have allowed all those accessibility upgrades with their potential to degrade the egress of an assembly occupancy without an architect of record?
Do not worry, the renovation project was submitted by a LDP. It has been closed with a CO, a new application for the stairs is nessesary. State law requires that this stair project be stamped . . . so . . . . we will see.
 
Yankee said:
Now that's an interesting question, as this proposal is required to be designed by a DP and I am waiting to see if he waives that requirement (I have told him this). Clearly it cannot be submitted by a DP as discussed : )
Nice job brudgers!
 
mtlogcabin said:
One where the state tells the building departments they cannot enforce liscensing laws:banghd
Do you actually have a court case which can be cited?
 
(5) Subsection 107.1 of the IBC is amended with the addition of the following: "The department requires submittal of two complete sets of construction documents for all projects. This section shall not be construed to require an architect or engineer license. The requirements for who must be licensed to practice architecture or engineering work is governed by Title 37, chapter 65, MCA and Title 37, chapter 67, MCA. The issuance of a building permit does not in any way address the need for licensure by the permit holder or designer :banghd
 
mtlogcabin said:
The issuance of a building permit does not in any way address the need for licensure by the permit holder or designer :banghd
Sounds like a clause to protect building departments. Seems like around here most building officials do enforce making sure licensing of DP is taken care of.
 
IANAL, but Just a quick glance at the structure of the rules suggests that the provision does not apply to local government.
 
MarkRandall said:
Sounds like a clause to protect building departments. Seems like around here most building officials do enforce making sure licensing of DP is taken care of.
"Braille review" is what we called it (Florida DP's have embossed seals).
 
MarkRandall said:
I guess that would not let me stamp my drawings electronically. I rarely actually use my stamp and ink pad.
Yep. no inked stamps, no CAD stamps.

The embossed seal does cut down on preliminaries going out under seal.
 
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