Re: Pole barns
D a v e W said:
How about this :idea:
http://www.co.weld.co.us/redesign/Plann ... ntial.html
On right is a pdf for Pole Building (design Documents)
Traditionally
Poles are round and Posts are square/rectangular.
Pole buildings and Post & Beam are similar but also a little different. But we can break the building into two categories - super structure and foundation.
Pole Building - superstructure would be very similar to post & beam.
Pole Building - Foundation is timber and traditionally is part of the same pole that makes up the poles in the house. The portion of the poles from bottom of wall to bottom of pad footing should be treated like the pier foundation as far as load and would need to be treated from a short distance above grade all the way down to bottom. In a deeper system with a pile would be a pole to a pad that also serves as a cap to the timber piles below grade otherwise, it would be uniform treated pole of the length and be inversely layed so the point of the timber is going down into the ground or simply get a pole long enough and lay in the pole as you normally would but just deeper. Like 30-40 ft. deep, with a log that is 75 ft. to 80ft. You got a big hefty tree for building walls and a stout concrete pad that is probably 5' diameter by 4' thick. That with strategic bracing on less deep but solid stable footing could make a nice stable pole building.
Similar methods of construction exists for square/rectangular posts but they tend not to be available in size diameters that a Pole can be (which can be essentially a delimbed and de-barked and mildly rounded tree.)
I say Post when the members are square/rectangular and Pole when I talk about round logs. There is also different means of fastening for round poles is to square posts. It is a category of heavy timber / mill construction framing.
I like to be more specific for sake of differentiation and knowing what we are actually dealing with.
Are we dealing with Mill construction, Half-mill construction, Post & Beam, Pole-framing, ect. Makes a good point. We should be quite familiar with framing systems and the different types.