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Pre-manufactured Modular Buildings and Available Fault Current

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I mentioned this issue at a conference recently and was told it’s none of my business because the manufacturer of the building is certified through the state and everything has already been inspected at factory. I whole heartedly disagree.

Available fault current is determined by the transformer provided by the specific electrical utility serving the area where they want to erect these buildings so it varies pretty widely. They also have no way of controlling the size transformer they get because it’s ultimately up to the utility and dependent on what they have available. Since it’s a site specific variable and these modules may have already been manufactured and shipped, I think it’s the AHJ’s responsibility to verify compliance per 110.9, 110.10, 110.24, 408.6, etc. (2020 NEC).

Do you guys have any experience with this? Thoughts?

Here’s an interesting example: 4 story building, 1st floor is constructed normally, 2-4 are modular. Main panel on the first floor separately supplies MLO panels on the modular floors. Each of those upstairs panels supply an adjacent panel via feed through lugs.

EOR did the fault study and it turns out the AFC exceeds the Short Circuit Current Rating of the panels and the branch breaker AICs (10 kAIC) that were installed at factory.

The EOR put a note on the plans that the contractor is responsible for coming up with a series tested combination via the breakers in the main panel. That’s a no from me - the EOR is responsible for providing those design parameters during plan review before the permit issues. Series rating may not even be possible.

It is my understanding that, depending on the manufacturer (and in this case, depending also on the equipment and devices already installed upstairs), a series tested combination that protects breakers in a remote panel may not be available. If it is, I think it still needs to meet manufacturer distance limitations; pretty sure if the equipment meant to be series protected is too far or too close, the series combo won’t work anyway.

Thoughts? Lend me your brain matter.
 
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Because 110.24 gets the AFC label on the panel which may or may not "prove" the downstream equipment is not appropriate? And it is on the applicant to prove compliance and we just accept or deny it.....
Some follow up questions..

1. Are you saying that you only need the AFC at the service per 110.24 to determine downstream panel compliance with 110.9, 110.10, and 408.6?

2. You mentioned verifying 110.24 in the field. So you wouldn’t require a complete fault study during plan review and in advance of their ordering and installing the equipment?

3. I understand theres a minimum AIC/ SCCR - I don’t know if it’s 5k or 10k - anyone? So I get the perspective of the AFC being under that minimum panel/ breaker rating already by the time it reaches the service equipment. However, there’s no way to know that before a fault study is done and it doesn’t change the 408.6 requirement to label ALL panels with AFC. Is that kinda what you meant though - that if AFC was low enough at the Main you wouldn’t be concerned about downstream and wouldn’t make them label per 408.6?

4. Assuming the answer to #2 is Yes, no fault study in advance (if not, please disregard this one): Let’s say you check the service equipment SCCR and breaker AICs are all 22kaic and the AFC is 21,356A at that location - great, it’s fully rated and complies with 110.9, 110.10, and 110.24 (I’m assuming everything else is there too). The downstream equipment on each floor is supplied by a riser that is a straight shot up from that main service panel - so not that far and probably not enough resistance to significantly reduce the AFC by the time it reaches the other panels. Theres a chance those panels and breakers are only 10k. What now?

Thank you for engaging on the subject! It’s super helpful. It’s not always easy deciding how far to take certain things and at what point in the process so knowing how the rest of you roll with things is a helpful perspective.

Plans submitted for partial or all modular pre manufactured buildings are super weird to me in general. So far they’ve not been clear on what’s factory installed and inspected and covered under the manufacturers cert VS site work and inspected by the AHJ. Then there’s stuff like this that we can’t rely on factory for.

In this example, if they would’ve assumed the worst and gone like 65kaic it would’ve solved a lot of problems no?
 
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Some follow up questions..

1. Are you saying that you only need the AFC at the service per 110.24 to determine downstream panel compliance with 110.9, 110.10, and 408.6?

2. You mentioned verifying 110.24 in the field. So you wouldn’t require a complete fault study during plan review and in advance of their ordering and installing the equipment?

3. I understand theres a minimum AIC/ SCCR - I don’t know if it’s 5k or 10k - anyone? So I get the perspective of the AFC being under that minimum panel/ breaker rating already by the time it reaches the service equipment. However, there’s no way to know that before a fault study is done and it doesn’t change the 408.6 requirement to label ALL panels with AFC. Is that kinda what you meant though - that if AFC was low enough at the Main you wouldn’t be concerned about downstream and wouldn’t make them label per 408.6?

4. Assuming the answer to #2 is Yes, no fault study in advance (if not, please disregard this one): Let’s say you check the service equipment SCCR and breaker AICs are all 22kaic and the AFC is 21,356A at that location - great, it’s fully rated and complies with 110.9, 110.10, and 110.24 (I’m assuming everything else is there too). The downstream equipment on each floor is supplied by a riser that is a straight shot up from that main service panel - so not that far and probably not enough resistance to significantly reduce the AFC by the time it reaches the other panels. Theres a chance those panels and breakers are only 10k. What now?

Thank you for engaging on the subject! It’s super helpful. It’s not always easy deciding how far to take certain things and at what point in the process so knowing how the rest of you roll with things is a helpful perspective.

Plans submitted for partial or all modular pre manufactured buildings are super weird to me in general. So far they’ve not been clear on what’s factory installed and inspected and covered under the manufacturers cert VS site work and inspected by the AHJ. Then there’s stuff like this that we can’t rely on factory for.

In this example, if they would’ve assumed the worst and gone like 65kaic it would’ve solved a lot of problems no?
1. No...I am saying 110.24 makes the rest of it easier to determine...
2. No....If they have no idea what transformer they are going to get, this information cannot be accurate at the time of application...
3. Sorta...the labelling is always required, but if you don't have it at the service, it's harder to get to the panels...
4. They change the downstream equipment...
 
I find it odd that a company which manufactures modules that stack and actually fit together, has not reckoned with this electrical issue. Each module has two panel boards that might become used equipment for sale, yet they send them out anyway? Phone calls could answer the questions and then they could install the correct equipment.... or smarter still, they could do nothing and let the electrical contractor supply/install the equipment.

As to series rating, there was a time when inspectors had access to a chart that started with the AIC and from there you picked a wire AWG and length. Now that there is an internet It got all the more complicated.
 
I find it odd that a company which manufactures modules that stack and actually fit together, has not reckoned with this electrical issue.
I agree it is odd. A year passed since their last plan revision and they’re still trying to figure this out according to the latest revised drawings and narrative. So a year to swap out the panels for higher rated ones at the factory… I’m wondering if the process for pre manufacture plan approval from the state is the reason for these panels still being 10k? Wouldn’t the risk/ hassle be greater to fix it and swap them in field because they’d be altering a certified and labeled assembly thereby “voiding” the certification/ labeling of the assembly?

They’re Siemens panels so I assume/hope there’s a series rating option and it won’t get to the point of them having to site-alter the modules. I could see that getting pretty complicated otherwise as far as inspecting or re-certifying the module? No idea what that would look like. But if anyone here does, I’d love to hear about it!
 
approval from the state is the reason
In the times that I have had issues with manufactured buildings, someone always stepped up and fixed the problem rather than getting the State involved. The usual response to a code violation is that I as an AHJ inspector i do not have jurisdiction over manufactured buildings. And of course, that is correct.

Sorta like carnivals when they tell me that I can't make them modify a ride.
Both the building and the carnival ride have a sticker from the State of California that serves as their get out of jail free card.
 
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