Question of Use I-2 or I-3

[Architect1281]

FM had the help of the fire Marshals Office as well

as many know the Building code (at least in RI) is not retroactive; thank God!

and after some discussion of this new work settled in and reality took bite, the health director said well how abou this or that building where we do it this (I-2) way now?

can't we add them there where we are GRANDFATHERED?

so a perfect setup for me and my boss, (Graet Guy) just nodded.

so in my own way of getting ideas to take, I calmy informed the group that

in ther presence was the most recent perpetrator of genocide in RI.

That in February of 2008 the Fire Marshals of RI took care of that by "KILLING EVERBODIES GRANDFATHER"

as of that date ALL existing buildings then had to conform to the Current (NFPA 101 2003) Fire codes for their EXISTING USE;

even those that may have had any granted variances (which they are free to re-apply for)

Nasty but it is solving so many problems in older over used structures.

the fire board has been busy and we do have a Rehabilitation code similar to IEBC that is helpful but limited.

the discussion about grandfathers ended quickly,

the Marshal only panicked slightly and laughed at my lead in? he'll get me back later I'm sure.

 

[north star]

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Architect1281 stated:

"Nasty, but it is solving so many problems in older, over used structures......The fire board has been busy and we do have a Rehabilitation code similar to IEBC that is helpful but limited. The discussion about grandfathers ended quickly."

Rather than saying "nasty", I would say truthful!.........To get the truthful message out and explained in a waythat is both effective and understood by those that do not want to do "the right thing"

[ because they have been doing it that way for the last 25 yrs. and yadda, ...yadda, ...yadda ], ...sometimes

you have get down to their level to communicate.

Kudos to you for sticking to your correct code interpretation!

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[FM William Burns]

Archt1281,

We are all not that bad despite what some may say. I never use or permit the term "grandpa" either since using 101. There are many cuircumstances that other codes just don't address adaquately and as we all know, changes happen that affect building safety even passive measures. Regarding the use of the best safety document for existing structures; I think it's due to your proxmity to Qunicy....