Restroom doors in series

[DavidWarden38]

A plan check comment states the mens restroom and the womens restroom doors are in series and need to have 48" separation per 11B-404.2.6.

I do not see these as doors in series, as nobody will travel from men's room into women's room. These are latch side approaches.

Do you Agree or Disagree?

 

[RLGA]

Disagree (with the reviewer). Series means you have to go through both doors. Do they consider doors facing each other across a corridor as doors in series? Probably not, and these aren't any different.

 

[mark handler]

The term "in series" implies you go through one, the then other. You have to have a condition where you must go from one door to the next in order, "in series", not have a choice of other doors or routes. Look in Webster's at the definition of "series" and "consecutive".
In your case, the doors are facing each other, with a shared clear space, in my opinion, not in series.

 

[Builder Bob]

I guess the Janitor or cleaning crew doesn't count

 

[RLGA]

I guess the Janitor or cleaning crew doesn't count

They might go through one door to the next, but they are not forced to go through one door to the next.

Doors "in a series" requires all users to go through both doors. If one of the doors is locked or the user changes their mind, the required spacing is to allow the user to change direction and go back through the door they just came through.

If you review all the "Doors in a series" figures in the ADA Standards and ANSI A117.1, you'll notice that there is no option to go out the side in a third direction, which this restroom situation provides.

 

[mark handler]

They might go through one door to the next, but they are not forced to go through one door to the next.

Doors "in a series" requires all users to go through both doors. If one of the doors is locked or the user changes their mind, the required spacing is to allow the user to change direction and go back through the door they just came through.

If you review all the "Doors in a series" figures in the ADA Standards and ANSI A117.1, you'll notice that there is no option to go out the side in a third direction, which this restroom situation provides.

Ron
We are dealing with a Janitorial closet. Not a common POT.
I personally would try to swing all doors in, NOT out.

 

[RLGA]

Ron
We are dealing with a Janitorial closet. Not a common POT.
I personally would try to swing all doors in NOT out.

Mark, the OP mentioned the men’s and women’s doors—there was no mention regarding the janitorial closet (unless that was what BB was referring to).

 

[mark handler]

Mark, the OP mentioned the men’s and women’s doors—there was no mention regarding the janitorial closet (unless that was what BB was referring to).

Yes

 

[JPohling]

no reason to require the mens and women's doors to comply with doors in series as they are not used in that manner. Now the janitors room is another story.
Like Mark said swing doors in.