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Rumps on a stump!

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I have an eating booth that's 30" deep x 2 sides = 60"

60"divided by 24" rump = 2.5 rumps.

Do you round down or add the other booth totals for the occupant load? I used the commentarys math using a 5' deep booth.

Or tell them to go on a diet?

pc1
 
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Pcinspector1,

How would you account for 0.5 of an occupant, ...eeeeeerrr "rump"?

IMO, it's all or nothing! Round up! It's more restrictive.

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I stated:

How would you account for 0.5 of an occupant, ...eeeeeerrr"rump"? IMO, it's all or nothing! Round up! It's more restrictive.
Ooooops! :eek: I am now revising that statement. I'd round down also. I went

the wrong way is thinking of the application.

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north star,

you had me sweat'n, glad to see I'am with the majority, rounding down!

I don't count the toilets either!

pc1
 
If 1004.7 states that occupant load is based on one person for each 24 inches of booth seat, doesn't that clearly indicate that it is 2 persons per booth. The bigger question would be is what if each bench seat measured 44" in length. Since the code does not say "any fraction thereof" would that bench seat not also be classifed as one occupant? Where do you stop measuring for one and start for the next if it does not reach full width for one person?
 
Inspector 102,

Good point, a booth seat measuring 44" divided by 24" = 1.833, still just one rump. That's is my question, do ya add all the 1.833 for a grand total and then round up or down? I have been calculating each booth, not the grand total of all booth's then divide by 24" for the occup load. If You do the grand total calculation you would only be adding one or subtracting one from your grand total! Big difference!

pc1
 
you could tie in the 18" rule for rump rounding purposes. if it is less than 36" count as one butt, 36 to 48 inches count as two.
 
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If you are not the BO, then you could request a formal interpretation

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Rounding down decreases your occupant load by 2 per booth so 20 booths could mean the difference between a "B" or an "A". Or worse 40 booths rounding down is an OL of 80, rounding up is an OL of 120, now add a sprinkler system. Traditionally most adults are wider at the shoulders than 24 inches and would not pack 3 adults down each side of a 60 inch booth to enjoy a meal. Now at McDonalds I will see a group of 6 kids in a single 60" booth.

Which ever way you choose just be consistant.
 
I have always taken the grand total length of all benches, did the math then its round down to the whole number. Like others have said, say a 44 inch both, the are folks that no one else can set next to them in that width and then you have kids that could get 6 people in that one booth.
 
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