second commercial building on the same lot.

[cda]

They do not, because I was told it was less than 12000 sq. ft.

You need to watch

If not designed correctly a day care can fall to an I-4

Sprinklers automatically

 

[BR2]

You need to watch

If not designed correctly a day care can fall to an I-4

Sprinklers automatically

again. Thank You. Hopefully that does not become a issue.

 

[ADAguy]

Children are always a risk management consideration, as they should be, they can't be replaced but buildings can..

 

[cda]

again. Thank You. Hopefully that does not become a issue.

Well if your building is designed already

Hopefully the architect has looked at it

If it is at the city for plan review

Well that is another story may or may not be commented on

 

[BR2]

Children are always a risk management consideration, as they should be, they can't be replaced but buildings can..

Two 2400 sq ft. rooms . Three exit doors direct to the outside from each room. My handicap daughter will work there, and my grand children will attend. We have made it very handicap accessible and very safe. Thanks for your concern.

 

[cda]

Two 2400 sq ft. rooms . Three exit doors direct to the outside from each room. My handicap daughter will work there, and my grand children will attend. We have made it very handicap accessible and very safe. Thanks for your concern.

Sounds good

 

[Builder Bob]

The code office is saying the imaginary line starts ten feet from the existing building, then you must be ten ft. from there. My engineer says the imaginary line is the existing building, then you must be ten ft. away.

This is wrong unless the existing building is at least one hour fire resistant rated construction ....

So many pieces to the puzzle and I would agree with Ty J. - a competent design professional is needed not card table talk or what if discussions. A component design professional can make site visits and put the pieces of the puzzle together to make the project happen - otherwise you are going to become very frustrated when you approach this shooting from the hip only to find out you are supposed to be skeet shooting and you brought a deer hunting rifle to the match.

 

[classicT]

Sorry. if you read everything you would have seen, I paid a professional engineer to do the drawings and submit them, where the discrepancy came in was in the code officers review, saying the new building must be 20 ft. away. I was not trying to waste anyones time. We are just starting the building, there were no citations issued.

To clarify, I did read everything you said. Apparently, based upon your own statements, your engineer did not provide a complete analysis of the plans. This is not atypical, as engineers are typically not the right resource for your concerns - you need a registered architect. Site grading and structural frames go to engineering... code analysis including building types, size, and setbacks from an architect. Since you are unable to answer these questions, you most likely had an engineer that didn't answer the questions either.

 

[khsmith55]

First, I agree with Ty J., hire an architect that is familiar with codes as it appears your engineer is practicing outside of his expertise. The architect you hire will most likely look at the two buildings as one to see if it (they) falls within the permissible height and area limitations for the type of construction, if it (they) do, no separation is required. Hypothetical example; two buildings, 6000sf each (12000sf total), 30' yards or ROW on 4 sides, Type VB construction with no sprinkler, one building I-4 occupancy the other building B occupancy. 9000sf (basic area)+6750sf (frontage increase)=15750sf permissible area for both buildings. I-4 is limited to one story if non-sprinklered, B is permitted to be two stories. If both buildings are one story they may be treated as one building. Just .............. HIRE AN ARCHITECT.
Ken

 

[RLGA]

...I-4 is limited to one story if non-sprinklered...

Section 903.2.6 requires a sprinkler system in all Group I occupancies. However, the day care appears to qualify as a Group E, which does not require a sprinkler system in this case.