mark handler
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And people wonder why things are not compliant and why there are so many lawsuits.
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Survey towards 20%?
- Thread starter Mr. Inspector
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mtlogcabin
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3411.7 Alterations affecting an area containing a primary function.
Where an alteration affects the accessibility to, or contains an area of primary function, the route to the primary function area shall be accessible. The accessible route to the primary function area shall include toilet facilities or drinking fountains serving the area of primary function.
Exceptions:
1. The costs of providing the accessible route are not required to exceed 20 percent of the costs of the alterations affecting the area of primary function.
2. This provision does not apply to alterations limited solely to windows, hardware, operating controls, electrical outlets and signs.
3. This provision does not apply to alterations limited solely to mechanical systems, electrical systems, installation or alteration of fire protection systems and abatement of hazardous materials.
4. This provision does not apply to alterations undertaken for the primary purpose of increasing the accessibility of a facility
PRIMARY FUNCTION. A primary function is a major activity for which the facility is intended. Areas that contain a primary function include, but are not limited to, the customer service lobby of a bank, the dining area of a cafeteria, the meeting rooms in a conference center, as well as offices and other work areas in which the activities of the public accommodation or other private entity using the facility are carried out. Mechanical rooms, boiler rooms, supply storage rooms, employee lounges or locker rooms, janitorial closets, entrances, corridors and restrooms are not areas containing a primary function.
How much of your "small" remodel is part of the area of primary function? More info might be more helpful
Where an alteration affects the accessibility to, or contains an area of primary function, the route to the primary function area shall be accessible. The accessible route to the primary function area shall include toilet facilities or drinking fountains serving the area of primary function.
Exceptions:
1. The costs of providing the accessible route are not required to exceed 20 percent of the costs of the alterations affecting the area of primary function.
2. This provision does not apply to alterations limited solely to windows, hardware, operating controls, electrical outlets and signs.
3. This provision does not apply to alterations limited solely to mechanical systems, electrical systems, installation or alteration of fire protection systems and abatement of hazardous materials.
4. This provision does not apply to alterations undertaken for the primary purpose of increasing the accessibility of a facility
PRIMARY FUNCTION. A primary function is a major activity for which the facility is intended. Areas that contain a primary function include, but are not limited to, the customer service lobby of a bank, the dining area of a cafeteria, the meeting rooms in a conference center, as well as offices and other work areas in which the activities of the public accommodation or other private entity using the facility are carried out. Mechanical rooms, boiler rooms, supply storage rooms, employee lounges or locker rooms, janitorial closets, entrances, corridors and restrooms are not areas containing a primary function.
How much of your "small" remodel is part of the area of primary function? More info might be more helpful
BayPointArchitect
Sawhorse
See illustration:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/551cxzfcnh63fwz/Feasibility-Study2.jpg?dl=0
I believe that we should hire SteveRay to make good use of a smart level to ensure that the total rise of each of the five sidewalk segments does not exceed 14 feet vertically. ADAguy will then double check the sidewalk slope and call for hand rails to be added (each side) for areas that exceed the 1:20 slope but are less than 1:12. If the building inspector finds any discrepancies, the worst thing that could happen is that the contractor will be expected to fix it and charge an additional cost to the property owner. If the property owner refuses to pay the change order and takes everyone involved to the court of law, we can employ Mark Handler as an expert witness. Mark Hander can explain that paying "soft cost" fees for design professionals is a legitimate method of getting something built in the most cost efficient way possible.
Why hire a design professional to help you build it right the first time when you can do everything by "trial and error"?
I just saved someone more money than Geico ever could.
Merry Christmas!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/551cxzfcnh63fwz/Feasibility-Study2.jpg?dl=0
I believe that we should hire SteveRay to make good use of a smart level to ensure that the total rise of each of the five sidewalk segments does not exceed 14 feet vertically. ADAguy will then double check the sidewalk slope and call for hand rails to be added (each side) for areas that exceed the 1:20 slope but are less than 1:12. If the building inspector finds any discrepancies, the worst thing that could happen is that the contractor will be expected to fix it and charge an additional cost to the property owner. If the property owner refuses to pay the change order and takes everyone involved to the court of law, we can employ Mark Handler as an expert witness. Mark Hander can explain that paying "soft cost" fees for design professionals is a legitimate method of getting something built in the most cost efficient way possible.
Why hire a design professional to help you build it right the first time when you can do everything by "trial and error"?
I just saved someone more money than Geico ever could.
Merry Christmas!
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mark handler
SAWHORSE
I did not say that, I said it is a cost
BayPointArchitect
Sawhorse
My point is that the creation of a special subcategory of a "cost" is irrelevant. It is a cost that is either spent in the "design-it-right-the-first-time" phase or the "fix it later" phase.
Mr. Inspector
SAWHORSE
mtlogcabin, they want to move a few non supporting walls around in an office.
They could use the survey for future improvements. The survey will cost about half (50%) as much of the alterations they want to do. Next construction job they could use the survey to make the accessible route. The commentary has an example of building just a foundation for an elevator for the 20% to be used for future improvements.
They could use the survey for future improvements. The survey will cost about half (50%) as much of the alterations they want to do. Next construction job they could use the survey to make the accessible route. The commentary has an example of building just a foundation for an elevator for the 20% to be used for future improvements.
steveray
SAWHORSE
A foundation is a physical improvement or step in the right direction...paper is paper....