The better way

[ICE]

Instead of adapting the built environment to wheelchairs, the wheelchairs should have adapted to the built environment.

Instead of owners spending a fortune building ramps, the government should have ramped up research & development and improved the fortunes of the disabled.

I am positive that owners would have been willing to set aside a modest amount of money towards that end. The result would have been a hundred times the bang for the buck.

http://www.hexhog.com/

Is it too late to start over? Could this be stuck into the budget for sending a man to Mars? Let's make it "a guy in a wheelchair gets sent to Mars".

Who should be sued to make it happen?

 

[MASSDRIVER]

Adapting is not the goal.

Everyone else in the world is expected to adapt.

Brent

 

[mark handler]

Instead of adapting the built environment to wheelchairs, the wheelchairs should have adapted to the built environment.Instead of owners spending a fortune building ramps, the government should have ramped up research & development and improved the fortunes of the disabled.

I am positive that owners would have been willing to set aside a modest amount of money towards that end. The result would have been a hundred times the bang for the buck.

Is it too late to start over? Could this be stuck into the budget for sending a man to Mars? Let's make it "a guy in a wheelchair gets sent to Mars".

Who should be sued to make it happen?

Ya tiger

try to get the 4ft wide HexHog through a three ft door or in a non accessible restroom

It will be great in the restarant mowing down other chairs and tables... now you need 54 in hallways...

I guess you need to be on the code committee you can make some great changes to the code

 

[ICE]

But Mark, that's just one of them. A really cool one. Too bad that it costs $30K.

The point is that had society done this without the emotion and BS from the various other classes, there could most definitely be a wheelchair from which a girl could take a leak, anywhere, anytime.

If all we did was eliminate ramps and reach ranges, the rest wouldn't be that bad. A little bit bigger bathroom with no ramps, one drinking fountain and no private parking stalls sounds pretty good.....almost reasonable.....for that less that 0.05% of the population.

Ouch! It's less than 0.05%.... In that context it ceases to sound reasonable to me.

 

[mark handler]

The Ramps, DF, and reach ranges are not just for chair users, they are for others with mobility inparements, Walker users, Cane users, people with reach and bending imparments.

 

[MASSDRIVER]

When you convince people there is a barrier, they will believe you.

One of the inevitable byproducts is that the group that has been convinced that the world is against them will want more and more.

Here is a good example, from many;

I cant figure out why this problem can't be fixed i've written a couple of times about getting some new motorized shopping carts at the Walmart Supercenter at 127th L st in Omaha,NE, I'm disabled and cannot walk in your store to shop I have Multiple Sclerosis and Degenative disk disease, repeatidly i've asked for someone to replace these broken down motorized shopping carts the Manager says Corporate Ofiice has denied their request for new carts, Your telling me the Largest retail store can't provide motorized shopping carts for the disabled in their stores, I have spents thousands of dollars in your stores over the years but you cant provide these shopping carts for the disabled they only have 2 half working motorized shopping carts in their store and there never charged,Today I had to shop at Super Target because there were no working carts in the store, When is someone get off their butts and do something if Sam Walton was alive he would be ashamed of the way you treat your customers I almost fell in your store today because i could'nt walk in your store i'm tired of excuses Get new motorized shopping carts,and since there are no more walmart greeters no one care if the carts are charged, The manager of this store is lazy and doesn't do his charge anything you tell him go in one ear and out the next I'm asking the President of Walmart to replace all these carts there's alot of disabled that shop at this store and were tired of being ignored

Replace all motorized shopping carts, fired the store manager cause he doesn't care what his customers have to say,bring back walmart greeters to make sure carts are fully charged , If you want to be the largest Store retailer in the country then respect the disabled by allowing them to shop in your store.

So now it is the vendor's responsibility to provide what can only be an extravagance, and they are mean and uncaring if they don't. Never mind that the offended could probably get one at no cost to them.

Regardless, most of these types live in a home with either no consideration to there disability, or a minimal attempt. As A matter of fact, if ADA litigation required the plaintiff's home to be fully compliant before they could sue anybody, you would probably never see another lawsuit.

Brent.

 

[Msradell]

Instead of adapting the built environment to wheelchairs, the wheelchairs should have adapted to the built environment.Instead of owners spending a fortune building ramps, the government should have ramped up research & development and improved the fortunes of the disabled.

I am positive that owners would have been willing to set aside a modest amount of money towards that end. The result would have been a hundred times the bang for the buck.

No money needs to be spent on research, the solution already exists, or should I say did exist! The problem was Medicare nor any other insurance company would cover its cost. The device was called iBot. Here's some information about it: http://www.savetheibot.org/what-is-the-ibot.php

Just make it your mission in life to get this back into production and have insurance pay for it!:banghd

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[conarb]

You will never be able to satisfy these people, they operate under the rules of Saul Alinski, a radical left wing organizer, they are dispicable activists:

As an example, after organizing FIGHT (an acronym for Freedom, Independence [subsequently Integration], God, Honor, Today) in Rochester, New York, Alinsky once threatened to stage a "fart in" to disrupt the sensibilities of the city's establishment at a Rochester Philharmonic concert. FIGHT members were to consume large quantities of baked beans after which, according to author Nicholas von Hoffman, "FIGHT's increasingly gaseous music-loving members would hie themselves to the concert hall where they would sit expelling gaseous vapors with such noisy velocity as to compete with the woodwinds." Satisfied with his threat yielding action, Alinsky later threatened a "**** in" at Chicago O'Hare Airport. Alinsky planned to arrange for large numbers of well-dressed African Americans to occupy the urinals and toilets at O'Hare for as long as it took to bring the city to the bargaining table. According to Alinsky, once again the threat alone was sufficient to produce results. In Rules for Radicals, he notes that this tactic fell under two of his rules: Rule #3: Wherever possible, go outside the experience of the enemy; and Rule #4: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. ¹

Currently there is a California woman named Brittany Maynard with terminal brain cancer, in order to die peacefully she has gone to Oregon, her story has gone viral on the Internet. The main opponent to assisted suicide is, you guessed it, a radical disability rights activist group.

¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

 

[Span]

Main problem for HexHog is that Medicare will not paid for non-medical use and end-user might not have financial freedom to buy.

 

[mark handler]

Main problem for HexHog is that Medicare will not paid for non-medical use and end-user might not have financial freedom to buy.

The "Main problem for the HexHog" is that it does not work in a built-up environment; Like cities or towns......Can't fit through any mandoor.