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The Most Common Electrical Violations

Discussion in 'Electrical Codes' started by jar546, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    Please list the top 3 electrical code violations that you seem to write up using NEC references (please). I am curious to see how this differs by geographic area. Thanks and PLEASE try to participate. I would like to see this thread grow. Thank you! I'll start:

    1) NEC 210.12(A) AFCI protection requirements, mostly they forget the kitchen and laundry
    2) NEC 210.8(A) GFCI protection dwelling units, 210.8(D) GFCI protection dwelling dishwashers
    3) NEC 408.4(A) Marking branch circuits in panel and 408.4(B) Marking panelboards/switchgear with supply source.

    Well there you have it. What are yours?
     
  2. jar546

    jar546 *****istrator

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    Not bad. Five months with no responses. That is actually great news because the means no one fails electrical inspections in your areas. Kudos to your electricians.

    Here, however, we still find electrical violations. I'm going to add another one:

    NEC 210.52 concerning more than 6" of overhang on a kitchen island or peninsula counter and still trying to count the receptacle below the counter as compliant.
     
  3. fatboy

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    Open neutrals, open grounds, reverse polarity, conductors not secured in lugs in panels or within specified distance of boxes, panels not labeled, incorrect breaker sizing for loads.........I could go on.......and on.......

    ICE could fill pages...........
     
  4. Rick18071

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    400.8 (1) flexible cords are not permitted as a substitute for fixed wiring and
    (5) not permitted in suspended ceilings. I have problems with this because I can't stop them from installing a receptacle in the suspended ceiling and they later they run a cord to it for something, usually a small sign or display lighting. If they do it before the final inspection I am always asked why can't they use the receptacle if it's okay to be there.
     
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    The most common electrical violation I see?

    Edwin.
     
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    I did that.
     
    #6 ICE, Sep 12, 2019
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    I would have to say that the most common list would depend upon the inspectors training, ability and education in electrical. I am still learning. I know a lot and I know very little. Residential work is repetitive and fairly understandable but commercial work can be from the simple to the complex.
     
  8. fatboy

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    This is common, to 71 brand new rooms in an assisted living.

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  9. jar546

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    Looks like they have a lot or work to do
     
  10. fatboy

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    And a cabinet setter out of would I would imagine.
     
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    We see a lot of 110.26 stuff..

    The sections you cite....
    Less now so with less generators happening, but the amount of guys that miss separating the grounds ans neutrals in subpanels and basic grounding stuff scares me...
     
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    This is where the cabinet guy should have said, "wait, I can't do this. Someone screwed up. We need to get the receptacle replacement correct first"
     
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    We can start with "not per plans" in the administrative section of your state/local code because that layout would not have been approved by an electrical plans examiner and/or questioned.
     
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    This is where the cabinet guy and/ or electrician said "Wait...I can get a change order out of this....."
     
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    Looks like the electrical plans and the building plans may not have matched up. But I never saw a plan that specifies the elevations of the shelves in a cabinet. So if there were no details of the shelf elevations and the receptacles where at the right place per plans I'm curious if there is a violation of a NEC section even if they did not cut out the shelf in front of the receptacle?
     
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    We always ask for a cabinet layout (free) both top view and elevations. If we see a receptacle where there is a pantry cabinet, we ask why. It is actually common.
     
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    Just did a service inspection 800A...Electrician had the grounding symbol tattooed on the back of his arm so I said "You must be a good electrician".....Missed the MBJ screw.....;)...Nice guy though....
     
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