Robert Ellenberg
REGISTERED
I am posting here from memory on what I have read (I am not an electrician and don’t have a copy of the 2008 NEC) and would appreciate the knowledge and input of you who do. Sorry it is so long but I couldn’t think of a way to make it shorter.
I believe it was on the old ICC board or somewhere else that I read the 2008 NEC had added most rooms other than the already required bedrooms to the Arc fault interrupter requirement. Living rooms, dining rooms, dens, hallway, closets, etc. and that would include receptacles, lights and even smoke detectors the way the code defines it. It didn’t specify kitchens or baths, exteriors or any areas that require a GFI.
Assuming this is correct information, it occurred to me that a new installation will include very few standard 110V 15 or 20 amp breakers (not arc fault or GFI). Here are the only ones I can think of:
refrigerator, dishwasher, kitchen fan and kitchen and bath lights.
Am I right? And realistically you would probably have the kitchen fan, kitchen lights and bath lights tied to some of the required arc fault circuits leaving only the refrigerator and dishwasher.
Since the kitchen and dining area have to have 2-20 amp circuits and the kitchen counter top ones have to be on a GFI, in small houses I usually have those dining room outlets on the same GFI as the kitchen. But wouldn’t this new requirement for an arc fault in the dining room mean I have to have 20amp arc fault in the dining room (where hardly anything gets plugged in)? If so, could you also put the kitchen circuits on 2-20amp arc fault circuits and a GFI in the first outlet? Would they be tripping all the time if you did?
What are your suggestions on the most efficient way to meet these requirements in a small (1000-1500SF) house?
I believe it was on the old ICC board or somewhere else that I read the 2008 NEC had added most rooms other than the already required bedrooms to the Arc fault interrupter requirement. Living rooms, dining rooms, dens, hallway, closets, etc. and that would include receptacles, lights and even smoke detectors the way the code defines it. It didn’t specify kitchens or baths, exteriors or any areas that require a GFI.
Assuming this is correct information, it occurred to me that a new installation will include very few standard 110V 15 or 20 amp breakers (not arc fault or GFI). Here are the only ones I can think of:
refrigerator, dishwasher, kitchen fan and kitchen and bath lights.
Am I right? And realistically you would probably have the kitchen fan, kitchen lights and bath lights tied to some of the required arc fault circuits leaving only the refrigerator and dishwasher.
Since the kitchen and dining area have to have 2-20 amp circuits and the kitchen counter top ones have to be on a GFI, in small houses I usually have those dining room outlets on the same GFI as the kitchen. But wouldn’t this new requirement for an arc fault in the dining room mean I have to have 20amp arc fault in the dining room (where hardly anything gets plugged in)? If so, could you also put the kitchen circuits on 2-20amp arc fault circuits and a GFI in the first outlet? Would they be tripping all the time if you did?
What are your suggestions on the most efficient way to meet these requirements in a small (1000-1500SF) house?