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ELLEN09US

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I'm working on a TI project. It's a coffee shop 29 Occupant load per plumbing code.
The plan checker is asking for water fountain in the shared restroom area.
Where's the requirements for water fountain in CPC?
thanks!
 
The requirement is not in the CPC, but is in the CBC, Ch. 29.

See Table 2902.1.

If you post the occupancy type, I can post the row with the applicable requirement.
 
ELLEN09US said:
I'm working on a TI project. It's a coffee shop 29 Occupant load per plumbing code.
The plan checker is asking for water fountain in the shared restroom area.
Where's the requirements for water fountain in CPC?
thanks!
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In the restroom???

or common area entry to the bathroom
 
cda said:
In the restroom???

or common area entry to the bathroom
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Does not have to be in the area of the restrooms, but that is the most typical location.

[P] 2902.5 Drinking Fountain Location
Drinking fountains shall not be required to be located in individual tenant spaces provided that public drinking fountains are located within a distance of travel of 500 feet (152 m) of the most remote location in the tenant space and not more than one story above or below the tenant space. Where the tenant space is in a covered or open mall, such distance shall not exceed 300 feet (91 440 mm). Drinking fountains shall be located on an accessible route.
 
occupancy type: A-2
I want to know:
1. where does it mention in the code that I have to provide it
2. if I need to provide it in the common area or in the tenant space
Thank you!
 
I just saw this in the CA plumbing code
415.2 Drinking Fountain Alternatives

Where food is consumed indoors, water stations shall be permitted to be substituted for drinking fountains. Bottle filling stations shall be permitted to be substituted for drinking fountains up to 50 percent of the requirements for drinking fountains. Drinking fountains shall not be required for an occupant load of 30 or less.
 
North star,
29 occupant load is per plumbing occupancy cals.
for exiting it's 56 occupant load.

BTW, the plan checker told me it has to be less than 30 and classified as B occupancy.
 
ELLEN09US said:
North star,
29 occupant load is per plumbing occupancy cals.
for exiting it's 56 occupant load.

BTW, the plan checker told me it has to be less than 30 and classified as B occupancy.
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Plan checker isn't following the letter of the code then. I had not posted this previously, but here is the exception for not providing a drinking fountain.

[P] 2902.6 Small Occupancies
Drinking fountains shall not be required for an occupant load of 15 or fewer.
 
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**Ellen09US**,

Will the Coffee Shop offer fountain drinks ?


**Ty J**,
Is your cited Code Section from the CBC, the CPC or the IPC ?
Please clarify !

Thanks !

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north star said:
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**Ellen09US**,

Will the Coffee Shop offer fountain drinks ?


**Ty J**,
Is your cited Code Section from the CBC, the CPC or the IPC ?
Please clarify !

Thanks !

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Each of the sections I have posted on this thread are from the CBC
 
California plumbing code
415.2 Drinking Fountain Alternatives
Where food is consumed indoors, water stations shall be permitted to be substituted for drinking fountains. Bottle filling stations shall be permitted to be substituted for drinking fountains up to 50 percent of the requirements for drinking fountains. Drinking fountains shall not be required for an occupant load of 30 or less.

415.4 Location
Drinking fountains shall not be installed in toilet rooms.


TABLE 4-3 Footnote 3 Drinking fountains shall not be located in toilet rooms.
 
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